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Algarveaddick wrote: And would you seriously expect a redundant 45 year old bank worker from Belfast to sell his house, take his kids out of school and move to Boston to pick fruit?

Actually a redundant 45 year old bank worker from Belfast wouldn't get a job picking fruit in Boston because he doesn't speak the language.

The workforce in places like Boston, Spalding & Wisbech is totally controlled by illegal Foreign Gangmasters and they do not employ anybody that does not speak their language, whether that be Polish, Latvian, Lithuanian, Romanian, Bulgarian, Portuguese or Russian.
If you are British and you only speak English then you have absolutely no chance of getting a job on the land.

As I said earlier it's difficult for those who live abroad to actually gauge the strength of anti EU feeling in the UK and until you live in, or near, a relatively small Town that may now have upwards of 30,000 migrants living in it, then you cannot appreciate why the UK voted out.

Yes you can look at the overall figures, make general assumptions and come up with a positive argument for immigration but there is absolutely no substitute for living with the consequences of mass immigration day in & day out.

I live 20 miles from Great Yarmouth, another Town blighted by immigrants who are given free B&B in what were previously holiday guest houses.
Most of them do not work.
They are kicked out of their digs at 10am in the morning and all they ever do is hang around the Town in large groups all day long.
I can assure you that it is no longer a pleasant place to visit.

That's why over 75% of the Town's population voted for out.

Because it isn't. It's 1.6 million. Houswives, Students, independently wealthy, early retirees (and probably a few dodgy gangster types too) make up the number, among other categories I have not thought of off the top of my head. You can't factor in people who are not claiming benefit and don't need to work as available to flip your burger or clean the lavs at the motorway services, Mark.

Totally agree with everything you say Perry.I voted to remain and would do so again.We lived for 40 yrs in Oldham in area that was 85/90% immigrant and as you experienced it was fine.We brought up 4 children who had friends of all nationalities who were welcomed into our home and we into theirs.All our kids and grandkids old enough voted to stay in Europe.I fear what is going to happen  with this government and Teresa May ,Who is Morphing into Margaret Thatcher the more I see of her.People should not believe anything she says she couldnt care less about the working class.She will destroy the NHS and Schools by Privatisation and bring back Grammar schools.We now live in the Rossendale Valley where I came from and it totally shocked me peoples attitude towards Immigrants.They are totally ignorant about them because they dont know any personally but the abuse I have heard is frightning.

Sorry AA it is true, it is what people in the UK see not what they are told and it is very much relevant.
The UN reported figure of 8000 Syrian refugees which we take under EU rulings are the ones they know about not only that we pay £2.3 billion in aid also:

UK aid to Syria

The UK Government continues to commit a significant amount of international aid to assistance programmes in the regions neighbouring Syria, arguing that this is preferable to encouraging Syrian refugees to make dangerous journeys to Europe. The UK has committed over £2.3 billion to helping refugees in Syria and the region, making it the second largest bilateral donor to the Syrian refugee crisis.

Commons Briefing papers SN06805.

Regards the Calais camp if the French had there way it would be open now if it were not for the UK funding the bill for fencing to stop those housed there from trying to board vehicles on the motorway.

No papers:

Investigation false papers that allow thousands of Eastern Europeans

Euro court tells UK illegal migrants from outside the EU CANNOT be

More than ONE MILLION illegal immigrants 'may ... - Daily Express

Regarding unemployment figures in your day AA there was not over 3 million people hid away on DLA and such like...some rightly so... as there is now with bad backs depression etc...although they can still breed....These are the people who should be made to get off their a***s and work. In Boston 13% of the population were born in other EU Countries. The local unemployed should be doing these jobs not migrants who then claim benefits on top plus housing schooling and health care.

Basically any tax and NI they pay is paid with one hand and taken with the other. On that basis I find it hard to believe they generate over £2 billion to the economy when everything is taken into account.

And to think this lot are about to blackmail their way in to the EU if they can:

World News | Mon Oct 3, 2016 | 5:03am EDT

Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan criticized the European Union on Monday, saying the bloc had failed to fulfill its pledge to provide 3 billion euros of aid for migrants as part of a landmark deal to stem refugee flows to Europe.

In other words let us get our hands on the readies or the s**t hits the fan.

Voted out and as it stands happy I did so.

Polo Marco wrote: Only the votes that are cast actually count. But if you want to include people who didn't vote then according to the Electoral Commission's figures then 62.5% didn't vote out and 65.3% didn't vote to remain.  Whichever way you look at it the result was to leave.  Now whether that will ever happen we shall have to wait and see.

Of course you are right, Mark I wrote that in response to this sentence:

"Generally speaking the majority of people in the UK who I speak to couldn't care less about the negatives of leaving, least of all the exchange rate, as they would rather be free of further EU intervention in our way of life."

David's friends are not representative of the majority of British people.

carolenclive wrote: Totally agree with everything you say Perry.I voted to remain and would do so again.We lived for 40 yrs in Oldham in area that was 85/90% immigrant and as you experienced it was fine.We brought up 4 children who had friends of all nationalities who were welcomed into our home and we into theirs.All our kids and grandkids old enough voted to stay in Europe.I fear what is going to happen  with this government and Teresa May ,Who is Morphing into Margaret Thatcher the more I see of her.People should not believe anything she says she couldnt care less about the working class.She will destroy the NHS and Schools by Privatisation and bring back Grammar schools.We now live in the Rossendale Valley where I came from and it totally shocked me peoples attitude towards Immigrants.They are totally ignorant about them because they dont know any personally but the abuse I have heard is frightning.

There is one thing for certain she will be better being like Maggie than being like Tony Blair and his money grabbing bleed the Country wife.
And what`s wrong with Grammar Schools? I passed the 11+ and it never cost my parents more to send me there than it would have the Secondary School.
Grammar Schools give the working class a chance of a better education.

Tonisdad

DICEYUK wrote: Algarveaddick wrote: Of course you are right, Mark I wrote that in response to this sentence: "Generally speaking the majority of people in the UK who I speak to couldn't care less about the negatives of leaving, least of all the exchange rate, as they would rather be free of further EU intervention in our way of life." David's friends are not representative of the majority of British people. But they are representative of the majority of British people who bothered to vote and that's the only thing that counts in a referendum. I don't understand why people are having such difficulty in grasping this simple fact.

And they are not representative of the majority of British people - a third don't care. It's not rocket science David...