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Hopefully thinking we can make it last week in October, not booked flights  as yet only hotel which we can cancel 2 weeks before arrival without any cancellation costs. Here's hoping, (BIG HOPE) fingers and legs crossed this horrible virus is rid  of  and under control before then and everything is back to normality.
BTW Luis yes agree PPE isn't going to the right areas who need it. Hope you're coping at the big hotel and you can all stay safe  while working . Big hugs to  all frontline workers.
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Originally posted by hamlet hamlet wrote:

Originally posted by sunseeker2010 sunseeker2010 wrote:

I don't think any of us will be making it there this summer.

Anybody who doesn't agree isn't listening


Even if Portugal does open up to tourists again our government's haphazard approach to screening and testing could feasibly make British tourists the outcasts. Being purely speculative for a moment foreign countries could insist on British visitors being quarantined upon arrival for two weeks as we would be coming from a country with less than robust procedures.
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So if a two week quarantine is required for those coming from the UK there would be no point in travelling for a holiday. Seems straightforward enough.

It seems to me more and more likely that the anti contagion measures presently implemented will become permanent. The days of mass tourism are surely over.

For that matter, so might spectator sports, cinema, theatre, concerts etc come to an end. Can't sell a stadium or venue if everyone must be 2 metres apart when queuing or when seated.

Governments will be able to say they have reduced the spread of this or whatever comes next. True, but they then have almost unprecedented control over the populace. For many people, being under virtual, permanent, house arrest will make life will simply not worth living.
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Cubsur - An Australian scientist was quoted in the press over here as saying that it is likely to be around 18 months until football games can be played in front of crowds again.
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This is not exactly over optimistic and even if they do start opening the hotels they should remember, if the planes don’t fly.....
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well said Andrew depending on   lockdowns in different countries, will planes be allowed to fly into Faro?  and also will their visitors be allowed in without having to do 14 days isolation?. A bit optimistic for me .I personally think it  will be next year to be safe.
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A fat lot of good it will be booking a two week holiday if it must be spent more or less in prison.

2020 will be a stay at home year for most. Whether the mass tourism business ever recovers is a worry in regions like the Algarve, where around 80% of economic activity is tourism related. That would mean hundreds of thousands out of work, permanently, just in this one area.

What will the cost to governments be if that happens? Some risk must be taken.

And as for sport, there may be no more of the popular team sports, eg football and rugby to play or watch. They involve physical contact with strangers, which is now a no-no.

Tennis perhaps, golf, maybe cricket next year, but with few if any spectators if what we read is to  be believed. And possibly no cinema, theatre, concerts, anywhere which might constitute a mass gathering. A fairly dull future faces us all.
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”A fat lot of good it will be booking a two week holiday if it must be spent more or less in prison.” 

Yes, and can you imagine, even if you were coming out to your own place for a few months so that self imposed two week isolation was no problem, what fun the “jobsworth” on immigration is going to have pretending not to understand or be convinced. What will they want? Proof of ownership? Number of bedrooms enough for size of party?

Fun times ahead me thinks.
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So true Andrew, owning your own place no problem, but tourist staying in hotels wouldn't be a good holiday locked  in jail for 2 weeks, plus as you say what proof would they need entering Portugal, being an owner or a tourist. Can you imagine if all these checks were put in place at Faro airport, the queues to get in the country would be horrendous. Personally I would sooner wait until things settle down and this bl**dy virus has left for good and hopefully wiped off the surface of this earth.  Here's hoping, but a big hope.
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The queues to get out of UK will be bad enough, with everyone having to pass a minor medical exam before being allowed inside an airport.

Even when or of this one passes by, another will soon come along together with the same reaction.
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I have just read that the long weekend of 1st, 2nd and 3rd May will be subject to the same strict travel restrictions that applied over Easter. Travel outside your town of residence will be forbidden unless for work, health or 'emergency'.

I wonder if this time they will actually stop people from Lisbon coming to the Algarve and their holiday homes, bringing their nasty germs with them.

And I do wish the media would stop using the word lockdown! No-one is locked down or even up. People are (mostly) simply obeying orders not to go outdoors unless necessary. Not that there is anywhere to go.
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They may stop a few Lisbonese to prove the point but no doubt everyone will travel on their 'essential' journey a day or so before
As you say we don't want their germs
 
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Please don't go anywhere, its our responsibility to take care of ourselves. Government can just implement the rules, but following them is our duty. Be safe at home. Coronavirus can be anywhere. 
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Checks can only be reasonably done at departures .. airlines must give some kind of passenger assurance ..  Euronews reporting that hotels will have `health certificate` ... which probably means testing at the door there too. 

I understand people from Lisboa are called `Lisboetas`.. 
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Agree Richard, let’s see how much, if any, of a token effort they make to enforce it!
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