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Topic: Virus
Posted By: Yellow daffy
Subject: Virus
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 08:00
Is it true that there was a man staying at forte do vale with the virus? We are due to go there tomorrow and are worried



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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 08:38
Where did you hear this? Nothing I can see as being reported locally.

However Albufeira council has already announced closures of schools, museums and other public spaces, all local sport is suspended and early this morning the national government announced a further series of precautionary measures including a ban on cruise ships landing passengers.


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Posted By: Yellow daffy
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 08:41
it was on a Facebook post.  I know not to believe everything on Facebook and thought I would get a better picture of things on here.  Thank you.


Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 10:36
bars and restaurants must reduce capacity by one third. supermarkets and mall will limit number of clients. queuing will be done outside the buildings. schools closed and payment in part by gov for one parent to stay at home for kids 12 and under (can we now leave our 13 year old alone and go on a jolly? weird ruling)

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Posted By: administrator
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 10:37
It looks like the information is correct.
https://www.sulinformacao.pt/2020/03/canadiano-que-passava-ferias-em-albufeira-e-o-primeiro-turista-com-covid-19-em-portugal/" rel="nofollow - https://www.sulinformacao.pt/2020/03/canadiano-que-passava-ferias-em-albufeira-e-o-primeiro-turista-com-covid-19-em-portugal/

Short translation:
A Canadian in his 60s who has been on holiday in Albufeira for about a month is the first confirmed case of an infected tourist in Portugal.

The news is being advanced by SIC, which says that the man is now "ventilated and with a prognosis reserved in intensive care".


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Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 11:14
Which begs the question - where did he get it if has been here a month.........

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Posted By: vinnym
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 11:21
Worrying times indeed, obviously this poor person has picked the virus up in resort, how many more will there be soon. I am due to fly out in nine days and am not sure what to do. I have just contacted my tour operator (Jet2) waited 30 mins on hold. They said they would be willing to change my dates any time up to the end of April 2021. However I would have to pay £150 pp admin fee. Absolutely disgraceful, I expected to pay something for the change but £300 is extortionate.


Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 12:12
Information on the link above that the Canadian went to Morocco and got sick three days later .. however, Muthu Forte do Vale should be in lockdown .. but where will we ever get news of what is happening locally ... bars and restaurants are the `lifeblood` of Albufeira and it will be pretty hard to trust any of them if other cases appear .. 

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Pyrman


Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 13:21
We are due to fly out in 10 days time and again in June and September.

Not sure what to do and monitoring the advice constantly but holiday insurance will only pay out if the FCO advice is not to travel to Portugal (or if the Portuguese authorities ban inbound flights). Worrying times indeed.

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Colin


Posted By: ClairedKildare
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 13:45
Due to fly over on 19th March, made up our minds last week not to travel. It was the thought of Dublin airport and the flight over really that had me anxious and that was before we had school closures etc here. I'm happy enough with the measures here in Ireland they seem to be very sensible, and things seem to be similar in Portugal.  Things should settle down before July/August but I'll stay put until all is clear. Health services will be under severe pressure with their own nationals, no need to add more pressure with ill tourists. Definitely financial losses with be hard, in all industry, but particularly tourism, I do feel though that health is more important.


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 15:05
Sorry to hear it has arrived in Albufeira but I expect it was inevitable.  I was due to travel over on 30 March but rearranged the booking for 25 October a couple of days ago. My age and health put me squarely in the sites of covid-19. Jet2 charged me £75 but I expected that. It's in the T&Cs.
Got an email from Easyjet yesterday (with whom I have no bookings) to say they are waiving the charge for changing a flight online. Perhaps others will follow.


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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 15:13
The flight will be a worry ... are airlines properly cleaning planes ... are they testing people with the pointy thermometer (as the Americans are doing) .. I would be in Algarve for 2 months .. then a much bigger danger on the flight home ... and very much not sure about July. The first confirmed case in China was Nov 17 last year ... 4 months ago ... and it will still be a while until
it clears up ... so we may be talking autumn for europe ...


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Pyrman


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 19:12
Originally posted by Yellow daffy Yellow daffy wrote:

Is it true that there was a man staying at forte do vale with the virus? We are due to go there tomorrow and are worried

Yellow daffy Forte do Vale is part of a large group called MGM they have have four at least other hotels in the vicinity. Maybe call and voice your concern adding you have underlying health conditions and could you be moved. Or as soon as you arrive ask at reception. I know for a fact two of the hotels are not full and very unlikely that will change in present climate...Good luck.



Posted By: Super__Ally
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 21:51
Ryanair's flight turnaround is 45 minutes. That is not enough time to deep clean a fridge never mind an aeroplane.



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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 13/March/2020 at 22:13
As far as Easyjet is concerned, their website states:-

"The cabin, toilets, seats and tray tables are thoroughly cleaned each night by professional cleaning teams at all of our airports. Additionally, every aircraft goes through a regular deep clean by a team of specialist cleaners. Finally, soap and hand sanitizer are made available onboard for all customers and crew to use."



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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 14/March/2020 at 10:40
In regard to Muthu ... Forte da Oura closes in winter ... due to open late March/early April .. the Forte do Vale boss gave an interview on SIC tv ... apparently not locked down but merely being
`observed` as health authority dont believe any big problem .. the number of cases in Algarve remains at 6 today according to the national site    https://covid19.min-saude.pt/" rel="nofollow - https://covid19.min-saude.pt/


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Pyrman


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 14/March/2020 at 13:29
A surface is only as clean as the last person who touched it.  Next time I fly I'll take alcohol based wipes to clean the tray, seat arms and my hands. Safest to assume they are all contaminated.


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It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 08:13
No-one will be flying anywhere for the foreseeable future so no worries on that score.


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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 12:13
As you say.  Edinburgh airport is having talks with unions presumably about staff layoffs due to plunging passenger numbers. I'm sure this will be happening everywhere.

Don't panic Mr Mainwaring!


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It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams


Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 12:42
Spoke to my son who is in London for the weekend .. deadly quiet he says. So in view of Govt action coming shortly have decided to cancel my 2 month stay in Albufeira and self-isolate ..
best of luck to everyone for the forseeable ...


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Pyrman


Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 14:00
We have decided to cancel our plans for visiting the Algarve this month.
Our visits planned for June and September will be kept under review.

Unless the Foreign Office advise against travel to the Algarve our travel insurers will not pay out so we will incur a significant financial loss but health is more important. 😕

Stay safe.

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Colin


Posted By: Super__Ally
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 16:28
Originally posted by Big Col Big Col wrote:

We have decided to cancel our plans for visiting the Algarve this month.
Our visits planned for June and September will be kept under review.

Unless the Foreign Office advise against travel to the Algarve our travel insurers will not pay out so we will incur a significant financial loss but health is more important. 😕

Stay safe.

Well said Col.
We are in the same boat and have also cancelled out trip on 5th April to the Tropical Sol. 
We have consoled ourselves with the promise that we will come over for a month in October. 

Stay safe folks


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Ally


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 20:38
Once the dust has settled, whenever that is, how many businesses will have survived From airlines, travel companies to small bars and cafes?  Airlines and rail companies are already joining the queue for government help.
I have a package through Jet2 for late October. Will Jet2 still be there? ATOL will refund me if not so no great drama but I like my breaks in the warm.


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It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 15/March/2020 at 23:02
Just found this news from Portugal Resident newspaper   http://www.portugalresident.com/state-of-emergency-closing-land-sea-and-air-frontiers-in-hands-of-president/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/state-of-emergency-closing-land-sea-and-air-frontiers-in-hands-of-president/
looks like the link isn't direct for some reason so need to copy/paste into browser.

[edited to make link work. That is the next step. Madeira and the Azores have already done this.]


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Polli the dancing cat strikes again.


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 16/March/2020 at 12:35
'Nuno's' in Páteo is closed until further notice 'for reasons of public health'.

Jorge at Páteo Mar is still open.


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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 16/March/2020 at 12:46
Good breakfast at Pateo Mar. Get it while it's available.


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It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 16/March/2020 at 20:50
Might be the last. The council has announced today that, among other things, translated :

"In this sense, all terraces must be dismantled so as not to allow their use and all exhibitors  (displays?) removed from the public space"

Street vendor licences etc have all been suspended.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 20/March/2020 at 11:10
Went to Continente in town early to get back before the rain. Just made it.

Very few customers. All the other shops there are closed except, rather oddly, the key cutting shop was open.

People have obviously been buying up cheap own brand stuff. Some shelves were pretty empty, but they left the more expensive options next to them. But there are no obvious shortages. I was able to get everything I wanted.

There's very little traffic. I saw painters working, although they won't be now in this rain.



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Posted By: Yellow daffy
Date Posted: 20/March/2020 at 11:19
not like here in uk then, people have cleared the shelves of toilet paper, pasta etc.



Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 20/March/2020 at 11:45
Why toilet paper? I am mystified.

The main Avenida dos Descobrimentos just after 9am this morning

https://postimg.cc/kRcV5HzR" rel="nofollow">


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Posted By: Yellow daffy
Date Posted: 20/March/2020 at 11:47
unbelievable, let’s hope this is over quickly.  Cry


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 08:29
I have to go through the old town area on Sunday morning. I will post some pictures upon my return.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 08:47
Albufeira council has announced that it will suspend the fixed charges for water supply, sewerage and general waste disposal as from April's bills. Water consumption must still be paid for.

In addition, no-one will be cut off for not paying their bills - many people still pay in cash which of course they cannot for the time being with the council offices closed.

I also read that 50 apartments at Páteo Village are to be used to house essential workers who are 'self isolating' from their families during the emergency.


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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 09:32
It is a huge disaster here in UK because Governments failed to immediately control the shops ... and most stores are profiteering by putting up prices and only re-stocking the most expensive (toilet paper) ... in fact, by encouraging bigger crowds, Supermarkets could actually be killing people. Tesco are cramming checkouts together instead of separating them.
Well done to Portugal, France, China, etc for spotting that right away ... not any UK government`s finest hour ..


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Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 10:11
Hi everyone from a newbie (in the Forum as well in the Algarve) who joined due to these dramatic circumstances. Does anybody know where you can still buy respiratory masks and disinfection wipes (to clean the smartphone). I am actually in Portimao, but maybe someone can give a hint anyway. Thanks & stay safe


Posted By: hamlet
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 13:55
No matter what the Government, or any Government, does it will not be right.
Haven't seen any price increases (profiteering) and I am a secret shopper.
How would you control the supermarkets?.
It is not only the UK that this unnecessary stocking up is happening. I know from friends that Canada and Germany also have empty shelves.
Can you explain what the countries you mention have done to control bulk buying from the supermarkets.


Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 21/March/2020 at 19:06
some German Supermarkets have started to charge a multiple for the second item of the same product. One Supermarket chain now sells the first pack of toilet paper at a regular price, but the second pack involves a mandatory 5€ "donation" which will be forwarded to health organizations.


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 22/March/2020 at 09:31
"How would you control the supermarkets?. "

Rationing, which European governments are loath to do even if the logistics were within reason. Unfortunately selfishness and greed will always rise to the top. I hope they choke on it.

Portugal did nothing special to control food shopping.

I wonder what people are going to do with all that fresh food in a few days, when it starts to go off?

As for Lobo's question sorry I cannot help, but if it's only you that uses the phone you shouldn't have too much to worry about. You can try the big stores like Continente and Pingo Doce for example, but from what I saw here on Friday they have none. Supplies are being diverted to hospitals etc. Continente have a limit of two items per person for hand gels, if they have any to sell that is.

You could try a very weak bleach solution, but even that's probably a bit risky.


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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 22/March/2020 at 11:07
All supermarkets should have been forced to limit the number of people inside .. and have police/security on the door to enforce it (which the s/markets have to pay for) ... there should have been a `one-way` floor marking to ensure people shop in an orderly way ... people should be restricted to 10 items leaving the store ... or they could queue again ... and queue`s should be limited also ... as above check-outs should be well apart to prevent internal contact. Stores could have been moved to 24-hour opening ... and people issued with a one-hour `window` ticket ... I am getting a Tesco delivery at 2300 on the 30th .. and I will have difficulty getting another in April ..

In an national emergency you need ORGANISATION ... and that is what is missing most in UK .. and in Scotland .. these `governments` are simply rock-bottom incompetent ..


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Pyrman


Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 22/March/2020 at 11:48
Simple solution to stop hoarding - one hand gel 5 euros. 2 hand gels 50 euros. One pack loo rolls 5 euros. 2 packs loo rolls 50 euros......etc etc 

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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 22/March/2020 at 12:03
Here is situation in Benidorm ..
https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/spain/alicante/playa-de-levante-benidorm.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.webcamtaxi.com/en/spain/alicante/playa-de-levante-benidorm.html


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/March/2020 at 10:08
Now it seems that barbers and hairdressers are not essential services. A crisis for ladies no doubt.

Any advice for us who live alone on how to cut your own (men's) hair without ending up with a disaster?


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 23/March/2020 at 13:53
I knew something like this would be coming, so I went to the barber ten days ago even there was still no desperate need for it.
Maybe there are some barbers offering home service, I wouldn't be scared to use such a service if the barber wears a mask.

another essential need for those with no washing mashine at their place:
The lavanderia near here is open again. They were closed and the owners posted a msg on googlemaps that they were not sure they are allowed to open.
I just walked past the place on my way to LIDL (were I could enter immediately without having to wait - surprisingly quiet) and saw they re-opened, changed opening hours with two hours in the morning now exclusively for 65+ folks only. But that's Portimao, not Albufeira


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/March/2020 at 14:55
All camping and caravan sites will be closed to non residents by this Friday.

This creates obvious problems for those who think they can drive back to UK or wherever.

http://www.portugalresident.com/free-wheeling-motorhomers-reach-end-of-the-road/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/free-wheeling-motorhomers-reach-end-of-the-road/

Note that this a decree and here in Portugal does not need specific legislation to back it up.

Unfortunately for the UK there is no specific background legislation on states of emergency.  Albufeira council closed all pubic spaces, restaurants and bars etc several days before the official state of emergency. UK town councils etc do not have the legal backup to do this.

Anyway if stupid, ignorant, selfish people want to flout whatever laws are put in place, how do you stop them? At least there is nowhere to go now.

France, Spain and Portugal would jail them.  UK, you will be told go home and stop being naughty?


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/March/2020 at 15:10
Is it me or is there much more traffic today than there has been lately? Certainly sounds busier by what's going past me.

Continente (supermarket) has announced that if queuing is needed outside stores, it will be giving priority to those over 70 along with essential workers, the disabled etc.

They do not intend to reduce hours. They are putting up protective screens around tills and counters.


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 26/March/2020 at 08:08
Albufeira Council has published useful lists of home delivery operations including supermarkets large and small, bakeries, takeaways and other possibly useful services.

It's at http://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/municipio-angaria-contactos-para-entregas-domiciliarias-e-tem-equipa-de-atendimento" rel="nofollow - https://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/municipio-angaria-contactos-para-entregas-domiciliarias-e-tem-equipa-de-atendimento

click on the pictures at the bottom using the arrows to move from one to the next.




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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 07:50
Cards can now be used contactless for transactions up to €50 rather than the previous €20 limit. But keep an even closer eye on yours!

http://www.portugalresident.com/bank-card-commissions-and-limits-suspended-as-government-seeks-to-discourage-use-of-cash/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/bank-card-commissions-and-limits-suspended-as-government-seeks-to-discourage-use-of-cash/

Anyone who's ever worked in a bar knows how dirty and nasty money can be.


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 08:13
The town council has pulled together all its relevant information under this page

http://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/pagina-de-informacao-sobre-o-covid-19%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/pagina-de-informacao-sobre-o-covid-19

Although the headings are in Portuguese and English, the content is only in Portuguese. You can run it through an on-line translator easily enough, for example http://translate.google.pt/" rel="nofollow - https://translate.google.pt/


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 10:08
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

Cards can now be used contactless for transactions up to €50 rather than the previous €20 limit. But keep an even closer eye on yours!


They're doing something similar in the UK. From 1st April the contactless limit will be increased from £30 to £45.

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 10:44
I will throw these thoughts into the mixer.

1. The relative ease by which governments world wide have put much of their populations under virtual house arrest for a period of weeks. How might this mechanism be used in future and not just when people sneeze and cough?

2. How long will the populations and the economy put up with the restrictions? Education, sports, tourism and entertainment at a standstill. Much normal production also. As an infamous news headline of the past said 'not many dead.'

3. To what extent will people re-evaluate the trivial aspects of their lifestyles while they have time to think about things? Do we really need 150 different types of cover for mobile phones?

I've been to Continente this morning. Absolutely no sign of shortages and several discount promotions available as per usual.

Have a nice day.


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 16:46
On point 3, sadly in the UK the press will continue to spread the agenda set by their overlords, and just over half the population will continue to believe everything they say. 

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Posted By: dbaxter
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 17:40
Tom
In answer I think that we are a living history lesson. Certainly in the  longer term in this context the pressure created by Covid in a liberal western style democracy could have calamitous results. While the initial horror and fear created by situations such as in Italy and Spain may allow lockdown to be observed getting through the exit phase could be all together more difficult. With a indications of the epidemic coming under control I fear the control methods will be even more hard to enforce given that they will still be essential.

BTW thanks for the pics you posted.


Posted By: Polo Marco
Date Posted: 27/March/2020 at 21:41
Algarveaddick, by "just over half the population" do you mean 52%?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 28/March/2020 at 10:03
The Spanish flu epidemic of 1918 and 1919 killed an estimated 50 million people around the world. OK so there weren't modern medicines and treatments etc, but that's an epidemic.

On a positive note I received a text from Worten last night. Their electrical and computer goods stores stores have been granted 'essential' status and will be open, subject to the now customary rules about limited numbers, not handling goods except what you buy etc etc.


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 28/March/2020 at 19:57
Just seen reports of hoards of Lisbonese/ Northern Portuguese heading to their holiday homes on the Algarve.
The virus is far worse in their  home areas so no doubt will bring the virus with them
What about isolation ?
Watch our infection rates go up

I hope the GNR send them back until this is over


Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 28/March/2020 at 21:06
Originally posted by Richardk Richardk wrote:

Just seen reports of hoards of Lisbonese/ Northern Portuguese heading to their holiday homes on the Algarve.
The virus is far worse in their  home areas so no doubt will bring the virus with them
What about isolation ?
Watch our infection rates go up

I hope the GNR send them back until this is over



indeed the Police is doing their best to stop them
https://www.publico.pt/2020/03/28/sociedade/noticia/coronavirus-ja-matou-25-mil-pessoas-contagiou-600-mil-mundo-1909924


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 28/March/2020 at 23:37
Just seen a post on facebook about queues of traffic from Lisboa  and northern Portuguese travelling   to  the south for their Easter holidays, Police stopping them all and asking questions . How irresponsible can they be when we have a crisis on. Grrrrr.



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Polli the dancing cat strikes again.


Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 29/March/2020 at 17:45
I understand from friend at a complex in Albufeira plenty of northern Portuguese have already arrived for Easter . Great - they will no doubt be out spreading their germs. Selfish arrogant a---s .



Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 05:57
Here's an interesting example - http://www.portugalresident.com/couple-travel-by-bus-from-lisbon-to-portimao-while-awaiting-coronavirus-test-results/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/couple-travel-by-bus-from-lisbon-to-portimao-while-awaiting-coronavirus-test-results/

I still don't know how to make links clickable (or clinks lickable for that matter). Copy and paste into your browser.  As was said of Lunchtime O'Booze "New technology baffles pissed old hack."


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It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 08:45
Jock and others, wait one for a visual guide to the short process to make a link clickable.

Will upload asap, my picture host site is currently 'under maintenance'.




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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 09:04
As of yesterday, these beach car parks are closed "...estão interditados os parques que dão acesso às praias Galé Oeste, Galé (estrada de acesso à praia), Evaristo, Castelo, S. Rafael, Arrifes, Stª Eulália, Maria Luísa Olhos de Água e Barranco."

I can see no mention that the beaches themselves are closed. The main town beach certainly wasn't yesterday. Some pictures later.


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Albufeira Resident

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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 10:10
Originally posted by Jock Jock wrote:

Here's an interesting example - http://www.portugalresident.com/couple-travel-by-bus-from-lisbon-to-portimao-while-awaiting-coronavirus-test-results/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/couple-travel-by-bus-from-lisbon-to-portimao-while-awaiting-coronavirus-test-results/

I still don't know how to make links clickable (or clinks lickable for that matter). Copy and paste into your browser.  As was said of Lunchtime O'Booze "New technology baffles pissed old hack."
 

And the result was positive so they are amongst us . Take care everyone


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 10:34
I hope they are enjoying Portimão's jail

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Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 11:32
has anybody been successful buying disinfection wipes, disinfection liquid (for the hands) and simple face masks here in the Algarve in the past few days? where should you best look for it? would pharmacies stock something like that too?



Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 12:08
Thanks for the guide Tom.

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Posted By: chrisjackson
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 12:28
Stay cautious everyone. This too shall pass.


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 12:32
But at what cost?
This is Plague no. 10 - Death of the Firstborn (Exodus 11.5), or damn close!




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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 30/March/2020 at 12:46
Originally posted by Polo Marco Polo Marco wrote:

Algarveaddick, by "just over half the population" do you mean 52%?

You might say that Mark, I couldn't possibly comment... Wink


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 31/March/2020 at 08:29
Originally posted by Lobo Lobo wrote:

has anybody been successful buying disinfection wipes, disinfection liquid (for the hands) and simple face masks here in the Algarve in the past few days? where should you best look for it? would pharmacies stock something like that too?



The big stores like Continente or Pingo Doce are your best best. Continente had some last week but they are rationed. Bleach, suitably diluted of course, is a reasonable alternative for many situations.


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Posted By: tiganut
Date Posted: 31/March/2020 at 09:44
Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

On point 3, sadly in the UK the press will continue to spread the agenda set by their overlords, and just over half the population will continue to believe everything they say. 
The theory is,if you shut the press down for 90 days,most of the worlds problems go away.



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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 31/March/2020 at 10:49
Originally posted by tiganut tiganut wrote:

Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

On point 3, sadly in the UK the press will continue to spread the agenda set by their overlords, and just over half the population will continue to believe everything they say. 
The theory is,if you shut the press down for 90 days,most of the worlds problems go away.


That is a distinct possibility mate... LOL


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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 31/March/2020 at 12:16
You can make your own sanitiser ... rubbing alcohol and moisturiser (aloe vera) ... here`s a video    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIi0N3qRFY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIi0N3qRFY

I make my own shaving cream with soap and moisturiser ... yes ... cheapskate ...

Pal who worked with me in ICI labs has a good business making industrial cleaning stuff ...
in his garage ...  not rocket science ..


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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 01/April/2020 at 07:57
It would appear that the rollercoaster has got to the top and we’re about to start the rapid downhill scary bit.
Portugal News has 14 April as their peak and Trump is now saying next few weeks there its going to ramp up big time, their forecast of deaths for 15 April is grim reading.
Stay in doors folks, stay safe, look after each other. 
We still can’t believe the number of folks that don’t understand and are walking round in groups of several more than two! Idiots!!!


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 01/April/2020 at 08:33
World Health Organisation : "Annual influenza epidemics are estimated to affect 5–15% of the global population. Although most cases are mild, these epidemics still cause severe illness in 3–5 million people and 290,000–650,000 deaths worldwide"

We should therefore expect for several months every year, if not an almost permanent, imposition of current measures, if governments don't want to be accused of standing back and letting people die.

Life as we have known it will cease. No schools or University, no sports, no theatre or cinema, no eating out, no pubs, no travel, no holidays and no work for many.

And it is not a great leap to think what that could lead to.


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Posted By: dbaxter
Date Posted: 04/April/2020 at 16:24
Out of curiousity I assume all of the Hotels in Albufeira are closed. Cant see there would be anyone around to occupy them


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 05/April/2020 at 08:02
Most are closed, except a very few housing essential workers etc. All the long stay winter visitors have gone now. I had a quick look at some websites the other day. I spotted none taking any bookings until at least May.

Faro airport is to all intents and purposes closed. Over Easter there is a complete travel ban, so there will be nobody coming down from Lisbon or from Spain for a long weekend.

The state of emergency is in force until at least 17th April and almost certainly for some time after that. Normal life as we knew it is on indefinite hold.


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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 05/April/2020 at 09:39
”The state of emergency is in force until at least 17th April and almost certainly for some time after that. Normal life as we knew it is on indefinite hold.”

Yes, I believe the concensus here is our best hope to be able to travel is June. Let’s hope so as that will mean, far more importantly, that we are on top of this virus.

Personally I think even June is optimistic, sorry.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 05/April/2020 at 12:38
Maybe a small consolation for those expecting to be here is that skies are grey, it is windy and there is rain in the air.

Earlier today.

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Posted By: Yellow daffy
Date Posted: 06/April/2020 at 15:51
great pics thank you 


Posted By: lucyr
Date Posted: 06/April/2020 at 19:19
So, so deserted, of course the way it should be, thanks for the update 

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 07/April/2020 at 08:11
Originally posted by lucyr lucyr wrote:

So, so deserted, of course the way it should be, thanks for the update 


Well, there is nothing open so nowhere to go. And it's raining.

Those expecting to be here would not be enjoying the wet weather, that's for sure.


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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 10:03
17 workers in a house near Inatel beach are being isolated as some have proved positive. The GNR are stationed outside to ensure no one leaves.

Stay safe everyone


Posted By: cameroncleggout
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 12:10
At least the Portuguese people seem to be taking the lockdown seriously. Looking at the Sol E Mar webcam on a regular basis and it shows virtually no one on the beach. Here in Fleetwood where I live, each day as we drive past there are hundreds of people strolling along the seafront.    

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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 13:38
"as we drive past"?


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 15:34
The law here is enforced by men (and women) with guns. There is a crime of 'disobedience' under the emergency laws.  If somewhere like a beach or promenade is roped off by the local council, you do not go there and face arrest if you do.

Should the UK forcibly ban people from beaches etc? Is there the legislation to enable this? I doubt it, given prevailing 'civil liberties'.


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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 16:32
Police routinely with guns in the UK? Unlikely.  We don't have the history of mainland Europe.


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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 08/April/2020 at 22:39
Police routinely with guns in the UK? Unlikely.”
You reckon Jock? There’s already loads of them and I don’t meant just London, Birmingham, Manchester.... I’ve also seen then in York, Worcester, Bristol, Derby, amongst many others.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 08:17
Originally posted by Richardk Richardk wrote:

17 workers in a house near Inatel beach are being isolated as some have proved positive. The GNR are stationed outside to ensure no one leaves.

Stay safe everyone


This was reported in local media as being near Tavira, the second such incident involving large groups of migrant farm workers living in very poor conditions. Together these two incidents account for about 10% of the positive cases in the Algarve.


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Posted By: cameroncleggout
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 11:35
Yes as we drive past. You may never have visited Fleetwood, So the Esplanade, which is a Main Road, runs parallel with the beach for several miles (with short detour around Rossall School) all the way up to Lytham St Anne's which is just south of Blackpool around 15 miles in total. We go for a daily drive to relieve the boredom for the wife who is on a minimum 12 week lockdown due to previous illness (we never ever get out of the car)

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Posted By: Lobo
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 11:45
what will be the opening hours of the Supermarket chains during Easter holidays, particularly this year during the crisis? Good Friday and Easter Sunday everything closed? Never stayed here around Easter. Thanks


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 12:02
Andrew, I said "routinely".  An important difference.
I know about Airport cops, Nuclear Installation cops and the police vehicles that carry weapons in a locked box for a quick response. In the UK our police work through co-operation with the public, not by implied threat. Big difference from continental paramilitary police.
Look at those police in Albufeira. Built like Arnie and armed.
It's not the British way. But then, we've been a democracy for a long time.


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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 12:30
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

Originally posted by Richardk Richardk wrote:

17 workers in a house near Inatel beach are being isolated as some have proved positive. The GNR are stationed outside to ensure no one leaves.

Stay safe everyone


This was reported in local media as being near Tavira, the second such incident involving large groups of migrant farm workers living in very poor conditions. Together these two incidents account for about 10% of the positive cases in the Algarve.
 
This maybe a different incident - the Tavira story was people living in a factory. Picture I saw showed the Albufeira GNR parked on hill by car park top of escalators. Either way need to keep distance when out otherwise stay at home and hopefully we will be out of this soon (that's more in hope than expectation)



Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 09/April/2020 at 19:44
Jock,
Noted, but the armed cops I’ve seen were “routinely” at work, just out and about town, patrolling, nothing out of the ordinary going on.
So, as my original answer in my daily experiences, before being put on 12 weeks isolation anyway.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 10/April/2020 at 08:25
I have had a quick look a round local news media and find no mention of a 'mass incident' in Albufeira. These people, who are virtual slaves, are prime targets though for any kind of disease or other affliction living as they do.

Also, it appears there was a mass exodus from Lisbon last night despite attempts to control it. I hope they enjoy their few days in the rain.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 10/April/2020 at 09:34
Just received my April water bill with, as promised by the council, a rebate on some of the standing charges. Reduces my bill by €8,51.

Also, the GIRO buses are still not taking fares, so another €11 a month saved.


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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 10/April/2020 at 10:59
Your beer fund is growing quickly.


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 10/April/2020 at 21:41
Just read on Portugal News, The President  Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa  has now extended lockdown ( State of Emergency)   until the 1st May and then will be reviewed again.
https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-state-of-emergency-extended-until-may-1/53717
Also this publication today  in the Portugal Resident newspaper: https://www.portugalresident.com/pm-costa-preparing-to-reopen-portugal-for-business/ 


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 11/April/2020 at 09:54
Originally posted by Richardk Richardk wrote:

Your beer fund is growing quickly.


Indeed, but where to spend it?

State of emergency indeed will be extended until May 1st (The current one expires on April17th) and after that, it is being said, that there would then be a gradual return to some semblance of normality.

Looks like it is being accepted that we cannot go like this indefinitely.


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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 11/April/2020 at 20:27
Thanks for that news Tom but the positivity in it is somewhat dampened by this report...

https://www.portugalresident.com/albufeira-algarves-covid-19-trouble-spot-authorities-ponder-new-restrictions/" rel="nofollow - https://www.portugalresident.com/albufeira-algarves-covid-19-trouble-spot-authorities-ponder-new-restrictions/


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Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 11/April/2020 at 21:02
Good report from Portugal Resident Andrew. I too think it will be extended further than the  1st May.
 I read on some hotel websites which are closed at the moment, that  they will be taking bookings from the 1st May, (mmm I wouldn't want to book any of them especially  for this year) obviously they are going off the state of emergency date  extension. Other travel agencies are still taking hotel bookings as well which I think is irresponsable until they know the outcome of restrictions.
I just hope the Algarve   in general and all businesses involved in tourism  can come out of this and recover well after all of this and things can  get back to normality. 


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