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I’m surprised that Spain will allow double vaccinated Brits in but Portugal won’t !
Do the government there also not believe the vaccines are enough , or do they only think that EU double vaccinated are safe and not UK vaccinated citizens !
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And now this :

PORTUGAL TO INSIST ON DIGITAL COVID CERTIFICATE FOR EVENTS THIS WINTER

According to local media, "...this means anyone going to a concert, wedding, football game, show or sporting event will have to have previously equipped themselves with the official certificate or be refused entry."


And the inference [from statements made on TV] was that this prerequisite could be extended to the accessing of people to restaurants."

Anyone from UK who may not be able get an EU digital certificate might as well not come here. One would hope that a UK version would be accepted  or it's goodbye Brits.

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That’s pretty shocking , some people are medically unable to have a vaccine, that’s discrimination ! That would never hold up in a law court ! It’s disgraceful !
Says that the EU health certificate is open to non Eu too on government site
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A problem for Albufeira among the obsession with statistics is that people visting on holiday  from elsewhere in Portugal who are tested positive are counted as if they lived here. This skews the numbers.

The mayors of both Albufeira and Loulé (which includes Vilamoura) are lobbying the government for a fairer count.

The good news for Albufeira is that visitors from countries other than the UK are increasing. Although this won't makle up entirely for the shortfall of British visitors, it might stave off complete collapse. The EU health certificate now being issued to those fully vaccininated will help, but of course UK is not covered.

But we are indeed all doomed anyway.
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As Reported in the Portugal News 3/6/21

Portuguese tourists who test positive for Covid-19, while on holiday in the Algarve, will not count towards the regional incidence rate, Prime Minister António Costa said at a press conference.

However, foreign tourists who test positive while in the Algarve will be included in the calculations. Infected national holidaymakers will be registered at their home address.

Cold comfort as the 25k population reputedly swells to 400k during the season

http://https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2021-06-03/covid-positive-algarve-staycationers-will-not-count-towards-regional-incidence-rate/60236/
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Much confusion abounds indeed. Tho powers that be seem to be unable to agree on anything. The numbers game seems to be leading towards a re-impostition of the harsh measures on business, leisure and travel that have only recently been lifted.
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Originally posted by JuliejH JuliejH wrote:

That’s pretty shocking , some people are medically unable to have a vaccine, that’s discrimination ! That would never hold up in a law court ! It’s disgraceful !
Says that the EU health certificate is open to non Eu too on government site

Not a perfect analogy but I can't go on roller coasters because I have a heart condition. My bad luck Julie. I have to accept it. I dont know
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Very mixed messages coming from Boris and health minister about travelling to amber zone countries. looks like things will be in place mid July to allow families travel once schools out. just frustrating in Belfast as schools close end June till end Aug 9 weeks. Hoping to get out still Oct do a city break Faro use as my base . Weather will be cooler fresher but warm compared to home.A week -10 days in oct helps shorten the winter
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Mixed messages here too with rumours again spreading of a further tightening of restrictions on social life, meaning restaurants and those bars that can open being forced to close on weekend evenings. We shall know tomorrow night.
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Is there a large spike in cases in the Albufeira municipality ? Or are those restrictions across the Algarve ? Thanks
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Albufeira is on Alert, which is the status that means if the numbers don't improve we may go back a step in the deregulation. Probably meaning a weekend shutdown of bars and restaurants at 3pm as is currently the case in Lisbon.

Politically that would be hard for the tourist industry as you don't want to go on holiday to be told to stay in your hotel at the weekends.
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Thanks, during the week are the restaurants all open normal hours ?
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In Albufeira and Vilamoura restaurants and bars are currently obliged to be closed, every night, no later than 10.30pm. Elsewhere in the Algarve, last admissions at midnight chucking out time 1am.

Bars that do not have a table service licence are still not permitted to be open at all and there is little sign they will be.

The next wave of restrictions on social life are due to be announced tonight. The numbers of people infected are still tiny, less than 1%, which includes a recent increase in places such as old people's sheltered homes. Nevertheless many here expect a weekend closure. That will mean we won't be able to watch the Euro 2020 final in a bar. It's OK to go out on a Friday night though.
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Perhaps not what you would remember as normal. They are open until 10.30pm and have to be cleared by 11pm. In the old town perhaps due to the proximity of the GNR station it is rigorously enforced. Last night after the Portugal game our glasses were taken at 10.30pm empty or not.
I think it is still only 10 to a table outside and 6 inside and dancing is not allowed despite that most bars have music as normal.
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What a crazy world we live in now!  :(
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Restaurants are now restricted to four inside, six outside. Have to close at 3.30 PM weekends, 10.30 weekdays. Still no sign of them cracking down on the 9 out of 10 people who don't bother to disinfect their hands when entering shops... not listening 
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