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    Posted: 06/June/2021 at 11:16
Hey guys,

Short question, maybe somebody can advise about proper steps and help with this since I don't speak Portuguese (yet): I live here with proper long term lease contract, utility bills arriving, registered activity, everything reported to Finanças, in short I have all the paperwork ready. Now I need residence certificate from parish council/junta de freguesia. How do I do it? Should I just pop over there, is there waiting list or some procedure I need to finish first? There are two council locations, since I live near bullfighting ring should I go to Albufeira main office or Olhos de Água? Anyone willing to help me with this and share drink or two is welcome (I'm buying of course).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Algarveaddick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/June/2021 at 07:32
My recommendation is to get your solicitor involved, that's what we did seventeen years ago, and that was pre "B word" of course, when it was fairly easy.  
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I agree. I did mine 9 years ago and it was fairly simple. Now that the rules have changed for UK citizens, best to get expert help.

Albufeira and Olhos D'Agua are now the same council.
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If you're a British citizen I'm sure all residency is done through SEF since Brexit. My friend recently got residency by visiting junta first then went to local camara (Lagoa). She got it completed only because she is from Southern Ireland which is within EU.
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Thanks guys! I am not a British citizen and initially from outside EU, so I do go trough SEF in several weeks. Residence certificate I am after is not a residence permit, that happens later, this is just about junta de freguesia confirming that I live where I claim to live, after looking at my documents. I do have a solicitor in Lisbon and he advised to 'get the paper myself with possible help of Portuguese speaking local, since it is too simple task that doesn't need solicitor involvement'. Hence I was asking here if somebody knows the procedure or want to help for a drink or a fee.
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Ah, that's different. Everyone I know (British) has residencia from the old system which has been renewed and can now be renewed on line. It might not be so easy to find someone who is not EU, not British, who has recently gone through the process.

As you pay utility bills or IMI (council tax) at your address that should be sufficient to prove your address. Proving income (ie so that you don't become a burden on the state) is something else. I had to show proof I was being paid a pension from my former employers.

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Just to document the process. It is super simple, using this form: https://www.freguesias.pt/imagens/080106/destaques/Requerimento_atestado.pdf

Takes two days for them to produce the document. Despite having lease contract and utility bills on address/name, only way to get the document is to have two sworn witnesses (living and registered at Albufeira!) as stated on form. Bit weird since utility bills should be more reliable way of establishing accuracy of the address but easy to finish anyway.
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"...only way to get the document is to have two sworn witnesses..."

That's new but very useful to know for people asking in future.
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Hi we are in the same situation & would like to apply for residency- we own 2 properties here in albuferia, would we need to apply to the council or through the sef? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you
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Council doesn't approve residency, only SEF. Residence certificate I got, issued by council, is just a confirmation that I live where I live. It can't be used to prolong your stay past the usual visa and laws. After obtaining residence certificate I had to go to SEF, where meeting was scheduled months ago (there is fairly long waiting list), and only after SEF approves it becomes official.

I was unlucky to run into bad lawyers when I arrived here last year, they were very expensive while doing little, then I was lucky to find a good team of young lawyers that are not too expensive and finished the job at SEF with very little stress. I am not sure if I could finish SEF and paperwork on my own without them.
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