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Topic: Betting
Posted By: Renniks
Subject: Betting
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 09:12
Hi all

I plan to visit Albufeira soon. Am I right to hear betting is illegal here?

Thanks for any information

Cheers

Ren



Replies:
Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 09:25
Have a look at this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/portugal/10141105/Bingo-playing-Britons-in-the-Algarve-ordered-to-pay-300-euro-fine.html


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 09:56
If you cannot bear to spend 10 days without giving money away to "Honest John" , then you should be able to bet on line if you are set up to do so - the law was relaxed a bit last year. But there are no bookies. However I understand some sites are still blocked, but which I have no idea. Probably better going on a betting forum and asking, there's bound to be someone who has been here and tried it?        

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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 11:17
If you have a UK Bookmakers online account you will be blocked when you try and sign in.
However, if you have an Android tablet use TouchVPN (free and available in Google Play Store). This hides which Country you are in.
Simple to use, just install it, open it,  select United Kingdom from the list of Countries and then tap Connect.
Then use the Racing Post App to select your horses and then place your bets with your bookmaker via that Racing Post app - you are then transferred directly to your Bookmakers account.
Sign in as usual and you're done.
It works like a dream, or so I've been told Wink.


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Posted By: Renniks
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 11:32
Hi Dicey,

Have you used any other uk sites whilst in Portugal?

Thank you for your detailed post

Cheers

Ren


Posted By: Renniks
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 11:35
Also:

Thank you algarveaddick and Jock, for your replies


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 11:53
Originally posted by Renniks Renniks wrote:

Hi Dicey,

Have you used any other uk sites whilst in Portugal?

Thank you for your detailed post

Cheers

Ren

Yes, plenty. Do you have any particular ones in mind?

Regards racing, if you install an app called Mobdro on your tablet then they live stream both Racing UK and At The Races

http://www.mobdro.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.mobdro.com/


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Renniks
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 13:08
Hi, thanks for the info, betfair maybe? What's the weather like now???


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 13:13
I only use The Magic Sign (if you know what I mean) but it should work for any
Weather is great, sunny and touching 20 just now



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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 18:28
Originally posted by Renniks Renniks wrote:

Hi, thanks for the info, betfair maybe? What's the weather like now???

Betfair is fine mate. All betting sites are as long as you have something that hides your IP as Dicey says.
I use tunnelbear but that ones not free so not really what you are looking for. Just make sure when you log into your preferred site that your IP address blocker is on otherwise you will have to shut down and start again......Bit of a pain shall we say when you have missed a 14/1 winner backing last minute.



Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 19:33
Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

If you cannot bear to spend 10 days without giving money away to "Honest John"       

Giving money away?
I like a bet and probably have 4 or 5 a week.
Unless i actually go racing, which i do quite frequently, i don't bet much, usually maximum of £2, or a tenner a week.
I opened a Ladbrokes account in Nov 2012 and deposited a modest £10.
So far i've not made any further deposits but i've withdrawn £250 and i've still got £47 in my account.
I don't have any other accounts andi haven't been in a bookmakers since 2011.




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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Renniks
Date Posted: 21/February/2017 at 20:10
Thanks to you both for all your help... I appreciate it!!!

Ren


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 13:07
Originally posted by DICEYUK DICEYUK wrote:

Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

If you cannot bear to spend 10 days without giving money away to "Honest John"       

Giving money away?
I like a bet and probably have 4 or 5 a week.
Unless i actually go racing, which i do quite frequently, i don't bet much, usually maximum of £2, or a tenner a week.
I opened a Ladbrokes account in Nov 2012 and deposited a modest £10.
So far i've not made any further deposits but i've withdrawn £250 and i've still got £47 in my account.
I don't have any other accounts andi haven't been in a bookmakers since 2011.



LOL - yes right, that's what everyone does, clearly... Mugs game.


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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 13:35
Its only a mugs game if you are a mug to start with
Plenty of people who know what they are doing make money from it
And what I said about  my account is 100% true


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 13:38
Originally posted by DICEYUK DICEYUK wrote:


Plenty of people who know what they are doing make money from it


I know - they are called Bookies...

If you are so good at it - why haven't you taken £250'000 out of your account? Wink


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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 15:32
Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

If you are so good at it - why haven't you taken £250'000 out of your account? Wink

Because it's only a pastime and I don't bet what I can't afford to loose


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: S1gh
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 20:08
I'm with you Diceyuk, I only place small bets as a bit of fun.
I'm never going to win big as I don't bet big but I'm well in front on my original deposit.......... so maybe we are not all mugs


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 20:42
I had a nice win on New Years Day.
Backed 6 horses on my account in a Heinz (57 bets) all running at my local racecourse (Fakenham) at a stake of 10p win (57 bets = £5.70 outlay).
Had 4 winners and a return of £138.
Had another 2nd at 7/1 so shame that that didn't win as I'd have won over a grand.
I also backed all 6 of them at the track (all £5 win) and made a cash profit £83, even taking into account  the two losers.
A good start to the year that will keep me going for a good few months.


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: S1gh
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 21:34
Very rare I bet on horses, not knowledgeable enough on them. I normally just stick to football and golf.
I put a fiver on Willet to win the masters months before hand which was a nice return but normally pick a couple of longer odds players and stick a couple of small each way bets on.


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 22/February/2017 at 22:03
I follow trainers, Pam Sly & Lucy Wadham, who used to be the producer of BBC Breakfast, to name but 2.
I've constantly back Pam Sly's horses and she's got one called Bonnets Vino - it won at 22/1 in November, 5/2 in December and again at 22/1 last Friday.
She doesn't have many horses but she had another 33/1 winner the week before last and and a 9/2 winner last Sunday.
She's + £62.83 to a level £1 stake for the current jumps season
Lucy Wadham is pretty good too and I usually back most of her runners.


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 23/February/2017 at 07:58
I am lucky to know only winners. Apart from the very, very odd time when someone cursed their luck because Chesterfield's last minute equaliser did them out of £35'000 quid in their "accy", absolutely every regular gambler I know has a similar tale to you two. Lord knows where the dozens of bookies get the money to advertise wall to wall, pay for Ray Winstone's yatch and pay their staff. Everyone seems to be  winner except them. Clearly it's not a mugs game - except for people I don't know, of course. Must be all them grannies doing their foxy bingo and the once-a-year punters on Grand National day that keep the industry going...  [There should be a winky thing here, but the system does not feel like letting me post one today]    

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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 23/February/2017 at 11:38
They make most of their money from slot machines in betting shops and online casino games like poker and roulette. Horse racing is a small part of it now and has probably been taken over by football betting.
On course betting at big meetings though is huge, particularly at big meetings like Ascot and Cheltenham where it's not uncommon for punters to bet up to £50k on a horse and there will be plenty of bets of £1k to £10k on each race.


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 23/February/2017 at 11:41
I've saved myself a pound a week by not betting on the Lottery since it started.  I must have "made" fazzands in the time.
Lucky I didn't back my hunch on the two referendums.


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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 23/February/2017 at 12:27
Originally posted by Jock Jock wrote:

I've saved myself a pound a week by not betting on the Lottery since it started.  I must have "made" fazzands in the time.

It's £2 now so you've saved more than you thought Wink
I think, given the chance, the Portuguese would be ferocious gamblers. Whenever I go to our local paper shop there's always plenty of them in there buying Lotto & Euro Millions tickets and scratch cards almost by the bucket load.
The shop is strewn with long streams of cards cascading down the walls - they must sell upwards of 20 different varieties.
At least with horse racing there's the interest of working through the racecards, studying the form, using your judgement and actually watching the race.
Not like scratch cards where there's no skill involved & you know the fate of your investment in about 10 seconds.
Now that is a mugs game.


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 24/February/2017 at 12:28
Originally posted by Algarveaddick Algarveaddick wrote:

I am lucky to know only winners. Apart from the very, very odd time when someone cursed their luck because Chesterfield's last minute equaliser did them out of £35'000 quid in their "accy", absolutely every regular gambler I know has a similar tale to you two. Lord knows where the dozens of bookies get the money to advertise wall to wall, pay for Ray Winstone's yatch and pay their staff. Everyone seems to be  winner except them. Clearly it's not a mugs game - except for people I don't know, of course. Must be all them grannies doing their foxy bingo and the once-a-year punters on Grand National day that keep the industry going...  [There should be a winky thing here, but the system does not feel like letting me post one today]    

One example of money for nothing off BET365:
They have an offer 2 races every day and all channel 4 races where back a winner of 4/1 or more and you get a free bet up to a maximum of £50.
Look at BET365 and Betfair you need to be looking same time to get matchable odds.
Back nagshead at 4/1 with BET365....Lay nagshead at 4/1 betfair. Nags head wins
I have £50 free bet :
Have  £50 free bet on I`m in the money at 8/1 with bet 365....Lay £44.45 on I`m in the money at 8/1 with betfair.
Profit whether I`m in the money wins or loses circa £44.
Plenty of other ways and means if you look...BET365 catch on eventually but the more family members names you can set an account up under the more chances you have. 
I dare say if you operated the same way to tenner bets you might avoid "your account has been suspended" message longer Big smile


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 24/February/2017 at 13:54
My son in law does something similar to that on betting exchanges
He showed me how to do it but it's very time consuming and you have to put the hours in and be on call all day long to take the bets on the horses you've laid - usually no more than 2 or 3 a day
He works from home running his own business so it's a nice little sideline for hiim
If you can afford the time you can make good money


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 24/February/2017 at 16:55
Originally posted by DICEYUK DICEYUK wrote:

I follow trainers, Pam Sly & Lucy Wadham, who used to be the producer of BBC Breakfast, to name but 2.
I've constantly back Pam Sly's horses and she's got one called Bonnets Vino - it won at 22/1 in November, 5/2 in December and again at 22/1 last Friday.
She doesn't have many horses but she had another 33/1 winner the week before last and and a 9/2 winner last Sunday.
She's + £62.83 to a level £1 stake for the current jumps season
Lucy Wadham is pretty good too and I usually back most of her runners.

Shanroe santos get in there 8.2 on betfair easy money lol Wink


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 24/February/2017 at 19:26
I was on, took 6/1 this morning Smile

Minstrel's Gallery 4.10 Southwell on Sunday Wink


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I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa.


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 26/February/2017 at 13:48
I take it all back - well, kind of. Here's a post from an acquaintance on a football site, thread  headed "How bad at betting are you?"

"Because I am an absolute disaster zone!

Been looking down my settled bets list, I have lost 29 out of my last 30 bets. My last 'win' was a paltry 9.17 off a fiver bet on Belgium v Italy in the Euro's."

That's who is funding all you experts...


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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 26/February/2017 at 20:17
We're crap too!
We both have Sky accounts and we do soccer six every weekend, it's six matches and you predict home, away, draw,
So we have two goes a week and always bet a pound on sky bet... we have never won. Yesterday was close, I got five and it was my team winning that cost me as I had them down for a draw, but they won! Bitter sweet eh?
Then again, is this "Albufeira" dot com? Just wondering what this thread is really doing here?


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Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 26/February/2017 at 21:48
Originally posted by Andrew Andrew wrote:

We're crap too!
We both have Sky accounts and we do soccer six every weekend, it's six matches and you predict home, away, draw,
So we have two goes a week and always bet a pound on sky bet... we have never won. Yesterday was close, I got five and it was my team winning that cost me as I had them down for a draw, but they won! Bitter sweet eh?
Then again, is this "Albufeira" dot com? Just wondering what this thread is really doing here?

Andrew don`t think the idea of any forum is to just to concentrate on the one subject.
In fact sometimes it is the off topic conversations that generate most interest/argument/opinion/fun.
Should have bet with Ladbrokes you would have got your money back as a free bet...unless skybet do that. 
Not sure as I don`t do multiples myself.....bookies like them too much.


Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 26/February/2017 at 22:20
"Andrew don`t think the idea of any forum is to just to concentrate on the one subject."

Really? Albufeira dot com was my clue, I live and learn, thanks for that.

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Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 27/February/2017 at 09:32
Originally posted by Andrew Andrew wrote:

"Andrew don`t think the idea of any forum is to just to concentrate on the one subject."

Really? Albufeira dot com was my clue, I live and learn, thanks for that.

Good learning is fun.

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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 27/February/2017 at 10:57
A lot of defensive posts on this thread.  If betting is innocuous why the need to defend it with such vigour?  Perhaps they "doth protest too much".


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