What about expats
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Topic: What about expats
Posted By: malagabob
Subject: What about expats
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 09:10
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What's the future for all you expats now. ------------- Never put off something that you could do today |
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Posted By: tiganut
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 09:12
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Deportation.
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Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 09:25
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No different to an ex-pat in any other Country. Get in there hopefully our Children and Grandchildren will not end up being a minority in their own Country and we can start using our taxes to put our own Country right. |
Posted By: Linda
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 09:39
 Funny how Brits are always 'ex pats' http://s6.photobucket.com/user/rubinda/media/11143167_1734011766830063_1880376310198438971_n.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 14:53
| To me the term ex pat sounds temporary, semi detached, don't speaka da lingo etc. Resident says it better. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 18:05
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We wait and see. Luckily for me my main pension fund lives in Ireland so is in euros, so I am not too vexed about exchange rates. I feel financially secure. If reciprocal health care and pension coverage is taken away as a result of whatever gets agreed in the divorce agreement, then that's a bigger problem for sure. If the Portuguese government wishes to order out of the country 40,000 or more fairly well off people who run businesses, generate income for the country and pensioners who spend their money here in quantity, then so be it. I cannot imagine there's anything we can do. One would hope that in turn UK Government would then expel the 100,000 odd Portuguese who live in the UK. There go half the office cleaners in London for a start off. Rather smacks of low level ethnic cleansing doesn't it? No doubt local media will be full of rumour and speculation while the Portuguese government thinks about what to do. Anyone thinking now about moving out here within the next two years would be advised to hold on until the picture becomes clearer. Meanwhile, let's just get on with it and not worry about something we can't influence. More important matters will be taking place over the next few days. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 18:07
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On a related issue, this could mean the end of third rate ex-pat Belgian footballers, managers and club owners being allowed to ply their trade in League 1 football. A definite plus. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Luis
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 18:30
| Nothing will happen. You are most welcome in Portugal and will continue like that. The Portuguese prime minister said that the "alliance" between Portugal and the UK is going beyond the European Union. |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 18:32
As usual Cubsur all very well made points. Portugal will not be in a hurry to ship anybody out who is filling the Government coffers. Likewise UK will not be rounding other EU citizens up just hopefully making it harder for...and I stress this... ECONOMIC migrants to enter the UK. |
cubsur wrote:Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 20:18
Well this man is obviously switched on & knows UK citizens inside out  The president of the Portuguese Hotels Association (AHP) has today said the UK’s decision to leave the EU will have no impact whatsoever on Portuguese tourism. “Britons who are in favour of the exit don’t travel as they are so British that they don’t leave the UK, Raul Martins told Lusa" http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-hotel-chief-brexit-will-have-no-impact/38666" rel="nofollow - http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-hotel-chief-brexit-will-have-no-impact/38666 ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: carolenclive
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 20:30
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If I hear the phrase "we've got our country back once more I will scream.Wheres it been for gods sake?.They interviewed a lot of out voters in Middlesborough and most of them had not voted on anything for 20yrs or more .Enough said. ------------- caz |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 21:14
Just shows how strongly people felt about this referendum in the whole Country I believe it was one of the highest turnouts in recent history. Oh if you are going to try to have a dig by using the people of Middlesbrough please have the grace to use the correct spelling and have the correct number of o`s in the name of the town. As there was 40177 people voted out in the Middlesbrough seat there must have been a lot of interviewing done since last night if they had ascertained that most of them had not voted on anything for 20 years. |
Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 24/June/2016 at 22:54
| Interesting how this topic brings out the troll in posters. |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 05:26
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Some interesting stuff about what might, or might not, happen when traveling to or living in an EU Country - passports, visas, driving licenses, health care, pensions, duty free allowances. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36619817%20" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36619817 ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 09:50
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Yes, I will bet they didn't think about the 200 fags only rule coming back in! And no more trips to Frogland to stock up with vin rouge if you can only brign back four litres. Some clown even said yesterday that the 16 million people who voted for exit (not that I agree with them) were the ones who don't travel. What a bizarre assertion. The exit camp were, in my opinion, misled on the issue of immigration control. Are footballers, rugby players and cricketers not economic migrants, seeking to earn more in the EPL etc than they can in their own countries? Anyone going to ban them, even the superstars from Argentina, South Africa and Brazil, none of whom were in the EU last time I looked and appear to be able to enter UK to work at will? So from the numbers and reasoning, it seems that many of those who have a Polish plumber, who know the nice Latvian girl who works in the local Greggs, appreciate the man and his family from Cyprus who run the local chip shop and are happy with the Romanian blokes in the barbers shop are also anti-European? Baffling, innit? ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 11:35
Most of the out voters probably only got as far as wanting to be able to buy a vacuum cleaner that actually sucks and having lightbulbs that come on immediately and don't cost an arm & a leg  ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 14:02
Yes you don`t want one of them Slovacs |
Posted By: Super__Ally
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 15:40
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In order for the UK to leave the EU it has to be passed though both Houses of Parliament. Reason may prevail eventually. If we do actually leave the EU my wife and I are moving to France. ------------- Ally |
Posted By: carolenclive
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 15:48
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I wasnt having a dig at Middlesbrough only giving the response of voters there when asked what they voted and why,of all that were asked only one had voted in the past 20yrs or so.This was probably the same where I live Bacup in Lancs. Apologies for the spelling but I am used to people spelling my last name wrong all the time. ------------- caz |
Posted By: camara1969
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 17:22
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carolenclive don't apologize for your spelling if someone has a problem with that then they have a problem he did the same with me the other day a sad man indeed ------------- camera1969 |
Posted By: Super__Ally
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 19:43
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Phillip Pullman of the Guardian wrote the following article. Admin can detete if it's a copyright issue. The dog-whistle call of Nigel Farage’s racism and the lies of Boris Johnson are the final act of a tragedy that began 70 years ago? This catastrophe has had a thousand causes. Here are some. There is our country’s post-imperial reluctance to let go of the idea that we are a great nation, combined with our post-second-world-war delusion that we were still a great power. That was why we refused the chance to join the European Coal and Steel Community in 1951, and our infatuation with our own greatness was sufficiently undamaged by Suez in 1956 to make us refuse to join the EEC when that got going with the Treaty of Rome in 1958. If we’d committed ourselves to Europe early, with everyone else, we’d now have a much deeper understanding of our real relationship to the continent, namely that we belong there. Then there was General de Gaulle’s double “Non†in 1963 and 1967, which kept us out when we finally thought it might be a good idea to join. Goodness knows what the source of his hostility was, but it wouldn’t be at all surprising if his notoriously prickly character was still harbouring some ancient resentment from his treatment by this country during the war. But if we’d had the chance to join early, we could have had a much greater influence on the way the European project developed, and we’d feel much more at home in it now. Instead, we were bewitched (some of our leaders still are) by the fantasy of the “special relationshipâ€, invented by Winston Churchill and entirely ignored by the other party to it, the US. Caught up in the glamour of this imaginary nonsense, toadying, deluded, we’ve been facing the wrong way for the past 70 years. Combined with that, there is the folly of allowing a billionaire from Australia to corrupt our press. A good deal of it was already corrupt (the Zinoviev Letter, for instance, a forgery published by the Daily Mail to ensure a Conservative victory in 1924), but the depth to which the bulk of our newspapers have sunk, the extent to which they are nothing more than mouthpieces for spittle-flecked xenophobia (“Up Yours Delorsâ€, from the Sun, 1990), is a wonder of the civilised world. Then there is the bone-headed obduracy of the Labour party. Outraged by Thatcherism, I joined in the 1980s, and tried to urge the local party to join forces with the Liberal Democrats to displace the sitting Tory. Nothing would shift them from the conviction that it was better to lose on their own than win in collaboration with someone else. When Charter 88 brought out its superb analysis of our constitutional crisis later in the decade, once again the Labour party knew better than to take a step towards the light, and refused to support the obvious need for, for instance, electoral reform. Because in its sclerotic complacency it never learns anything, it went on in due course to lose its base in Scotland and then elect Jeremy Corbyn, whose performance during the referendum has been a masterclass in lacklustre, moribund, timid, low-wattage helplessness. You cannot take someone formed by nature to be a safely maverick backbencher and expect him to project any kind of clear determined leadership. Then there is the tendency of our broadcast media to be seduced by strong personalities. The oafish saloon-bar loudmouth Nigel Farage was indulged with far too many appearances on Any Questions and Question Time. Producers seem to have felt his dog-whistle racism to be amusingly transgressive. Similarly, Boris Johnson, a liar, a cheat, a man said to have betrayed a journalist to someone who wanted to beat him up, a shameless opportunist, an idle buffoon, to name but a few of his disqualifications for high office, was flattered over and over again by programmes such as Have I Got News For You. Without the completely needless exposure these two gained from the generosity of TV and radio, they would have found it harder to spread their lies and not-even-quite-covert racism during the referendum. They’d have been starting from a different place. But the most immediate cause of the disaster this country suffered last night was the flippant, careless, irresponsible way David Cameron tried to buy off the right wing of his own party by offering them a referendum. I don’t think that device should have any place at all in a parliamentary democracy: it slips far too easily into a sort of raucous populism. We elect MPs so that they can have the time and the resources to make important decisions. That’s what they should do. But then, if we had a properly thought-out constitution instead of a cobwebbed, rotten, diseased and decaying mess of a patched-up, cobbled-together, bloated, corrupted, leaking and stinking hulk, we wouldn’t have come to this point anyway. We desperately need fundamental change. But who can bring us that now? We'd love your feedback on the Guardian Apple News channel. Email userhelp@theguardian.com with 'Apple News' in the subject. ------------- Ally |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 20:05
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http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/brexit-starts-taking-its-toll-on-portugal/38662 The comments at the bottom of the publication are worth a read, especially the comment off Ken from Beiras, he has hit the nail on the head for me. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: Patti
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 20:28
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lots of different views http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36619123 |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 21:00
I guess he voted "remain" then And he probably wouldn't have written any of that if we had voted for what he wanted. I also voted "remain" but there's no sour grapes from me because on reflection I'm not that disappointed that we're out. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 21:11
| Poor old Phillip Pullman another one who does not realise we live in a Democracy. |
Posted By: camara1969
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 21:15
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it's alright saying let's rule our own country but what sort of industries is left from what was there forty odd years ago? London has got great banking but that will go as sterling will be defunct in an euro zone, I get the idiotic Brussels thing where they make stupid rules having lived in Ireland they had rules to stop turf cutters in one area of the same county but let others cut away when in fact the area they were cutting was there private land and then there was the water charges and the way they charged for waste collection all done in Brussels yea but for me life is to short ------------- camera1969 |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 21:23
Please don`t feel the need to apologise. With you stating Middlesbrough I took it as an underhand dig as I am from those parts when maybe it wasn`t intended that way. Everybody is entitled to their opinion/feelings. Just sometimes people get personal for no reason. Mind I can understand people getting your second name wrong it`s not a very common surname....enclive |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 21:45
If you are going to make a statement make it correct. I merely pointed out to you when you started ranting about a post that the poster was being ironic not flippant. |
Posted By: camara1969
Date Posted: 25/June/2016 at 22:24
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you sad man I told carolenclive about you pulling me on my spelling what don't you get or do you just read what you want, and you did leave it by saying trot on so why bother with someone with more intellect than you and has more respect for other forum users, ps read my previous posts ------------- camera1969 |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 26/June/2016 at 09:35
LOL.......Enough said. |
Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 26/June/2016 at 09:49
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Is the implosion starting sooner than expected. BBC News states: EU leaders are particularly worried about the prospect of "contagion", with the UK's decision already fuelling demands from populist, anti-EU parties in France and the Netherlands for referendums of their own on EU membership. |
Posted By: Patti
Date Posted: 26/June/2016 at 09:58
Totally agree with Ken from Beiras |
Posted By: tiganut
Date Posted: 26/June/2016 at 10:01
A voice of reason.The people voted out,albeit by a narrow margin,so out we are.Politicians must now negotiate a settlement,although,had they negotiated better terms a few months ago,we would probably still be in. It is my firm belief that Brussels,&/or Strasbourg,are seriously worried that others will follow suit,& the gravy train could be shunted in to a siding. In a few years time,somebody will come up with a genius idea like'Why don't we have free trade,& movement of people within Europe?' ------------- He Who Dies With The Most Toys Wins |
Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 27/June/2016 at 16:35
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This bloke said a 52% to 48% result would not be conclusive. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017 ------------- Go away Duchatalet |
Posted By: Epi360
Date Posted: 27/June/2016 at 17:37
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That was only if it was the other way round ------------- Music and sun |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 27/June/2016 at 18:17
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Found this earlier from the Independent, how true it is is another thing. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-loophole-eu-referendum-mps-law-legal-legislation-constitution-a7105181.html
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