IMI Bills
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Topic: IMI Bills
Posted By: bob d
Subject: IMI Bills
Date Posted: 07/March/2016 at 15:33
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Just received my IMI bill and very pleasantly surprised. The IMI rate has been cut from 0.50% to 0.35% meaning quite a significant drop in price for this year. ------------- we're not brazil we're norn iron |
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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 08/March/2016 at 12:03
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So one or two more beers may be consumed? I haven't had mine yet. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: bob d
Date Posted: 08/March/2016 at 17:56
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Indeed, and, don't worry....it'll come. ------------- we're not brazil we're norn iron |
Posted By: Norm55
Date Posted: 09/March/2016 at 07:27
| Am over here now. Just wondered if it is worth going down there and paying it. Not recieved it at home when i left |
Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 09/March/2016 at 08:53
Going by previous form, if you don't have the bill with you, they wont let you pay it... 
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Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 09/March/2016 at 09:38
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Maybe you can get payment details from your bit on the finances web site....... ------------- 
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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 09/March/2016 at 10:44
It doesn't appear on there until after it's been posted. Not got ours yet. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
peteknopp wrote:Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 13/March/2016 at 16:29
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Just looked at the Financa's website and our IMI for this year (i.e. 2015) is showing so presumably it's in the post. As reported above by bob d, compared to last year it has gone down and by exactly 30%. Last year (i.e. 2014 IMI) our combined total was 351.06 (175.53 each) and this year (2015 IMI) it's gone down to 245.74 (122.87 each). So that's a 105.32 reduction - we only pay once a year in April. Whilst I'm happy about this I must admit that I find it a very strange decision as I'm now going to pay less than the 253.04 (126.52 each) we paid in 2012 (2011 IMI). It then went up in 2013 (2012 IMI) to 351.06 due property revaluation. Anybody know what the reason or logic of this is? ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 14/March/2016 at 14:54
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"Anybody know what the reason or logic of this is?" The council has paid back in full a loan of 16 million Euros, which meant no more interest payments in 2015 According to this article http://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/munic-pio-de-albufeira-reduz-taxas-para-ajudar-munic-pes-fam-lias-e-empresas" rel="nofollow - http://www.cm-albufeira.pt/content/munic-pio-de-albufeira-reduz-taxas-para-ajudar-munic-pes-fam-lias-e-empresas they have also tightened up on costs and reduced taxes paid. Some small business taxes are also reduced. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 15/March/2016 at 20:18
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Thanks for the info Tom. Still think it's a strange decision to go back to levels that are below what we paid in 2011. Surely there must have been wage rises, inflation etc since 2011? Would it not have made more sense to keep it at current levels and spend the extra on things like cleaning out drains, repairing pavements etc. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 15/March/2016 at 21:31
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Ours was revalued in 2012 and increased substantially and was revalued again last year (Due to selling) and was informed by financas that the VPT has increased yet again. We are still liable for the 2015 IMI and are now awaiting the bills arriving through our door in UK, but nice to know the percentage has dropped from 0.50% to 0.35% so hopefully the decrease in percentage will counteract the increase in our VPT on the IMI payable.
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Posted By: stuart123
Date Posted: 15/March/2016 at 21:59
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Dicey, which option do you use to see the IMI bill on the tax web site? |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 15/March/2016 at 22:57
After you've logged in the next page you come to has this on the right hand side, just below your name & NIF number  Click on the first option - Situacao fiscal integrada You then get a page that has this more or less in the centre  Click on the Yellow Box/Triangle/IMI and your IMI - Ano de 2015 should be showing there. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 16/March/2016 at 00:28
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Thats if your registered Stuart123 with financas website and have a password to access it . I asked about this at financas 2 years ago thinking they could do it there and then in the office , they said no. You have to register online and then they send you a password by post so you can access. it Is that correct Dicey or have i been given wrong info?
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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 16/March/2016 at 05:43
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Yes that's right. Can't remember exactly how I registered as it was a long time ago but I do remember that it involved waiting for a password in the post. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: stuart123
Date Posted: 16/March/2016 at 11:55
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Great, thanks, found it.
As this is my first IMI payment on my apartment, I'm pleased to see that the amount is much less than my expectations! 256.90 euro per year if I read this right - I was expecting more like 500 euro. Data de estado 2016-03-14 Data limite de pagamento 2016-04-30 Valor emitido 128,45 |
Posted By: kevjrobbo
Date Posted: 16/March/2016 at 18:15
| Can you pay your imi early, Ie, March or do you have to wait till April |
Posted By: stuart123
Date Posted: 16/March/2016 at 18:20
| I've scheduled a payment on my bank account for mid-April - don't want to pay too early! |
Posted By: Ruth
Date Posted: 17/March/2016 at 18:35
| Kevjrobbo, Yes, you can pay it now in March, or anytime up until the end of April. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 18/March/2016 at 12:28
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I am feeling left out. Haven't had mine yet. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: john2604smith
Date Posted: 18/March/2016 at 17:47
They might be letting you off, Tom  ------------- ownersdirect P3708 |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 00:35
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Not got ours as yet either. Wonders whether they do it in alphabetical order, and mine always seems to arrive 5 days after his indoors one , how strange, I'm sure they would save a bob or two on postage sending them together instead of separate, suppose its another Portuguese thing, what a cock up lol. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 06:03
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Doubt if it's alphabetical - we're a W & got ours over a week ago. Both on the same day too and that is unusual as previously we had always received them 4 or 5 days apart. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 09:28
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And as I am A ... I checked last year's which I didn't pay until 10th April so all being well it will be waiting for me when I get back. Otherwise it's off to the camara or I will get fined for not paying a bill I don't have. It would be much better it we could pay by direct debit. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: sidsmum
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 10:39
Thanks to Jayjan & Dicey for mentioning bills arriving separately.....I received one addressed to me (F) 3days ago, which I thought was a bargain! Dave's (B) arrived yesterday for the same amount  .So how does this work then? There's 2 names on the mortgage so we receive a bill each, for half the amount each? The bill states "ano 2015" so does everyone pay in arrears? We bought our Pateo apartment on 1st August 2015. Is this taken into account? Sorry, so many questions xxx
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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 11:32
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Both of ours arrived today and, as mentioned, quite a pleasant surprise, much less than previous. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy paying them though! 😥 ------------- Andrew |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 12:06
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Yes they are in arrears sidsmum. We sold our place in Sept 2015 but have been told we will still have an IMI bill for 2015 but not sure whether it will be for the whole year or just up to Sept. Yours maybe just calculated from August 2015 when you bought, to the end of Dec 2015. I was also told that it's the person/persons who own the property at that particular year end who are liable, so am a bit confused. We will see when ours arrives whether the amount is pro rata or for the full year. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 12:25
| My wife's still hasn't arrived, I don't get one because I am "In the system" I have to go online and retrieve mine digitally. |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 16:16
------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: aylesbury
Date Posted: 25/March/2016 at 19:12
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we recieved ours today her indoors, and mine
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Posted By: alan&alice
Date Posted: 27/March/2016 at 08:06
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Ours came electronically over a week ago and Alice paid it the same day,yes a lot less than last year :-) ------------- http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/rentals/albufeira/481652 |
Posted By: alan&alice
Date Posted: 27/March/2016 at 14:20
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got it wrong Alan they came through in the post ! ------------- http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/rentals/albufeira/481652 |
Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 27/March/2016 at 16:57
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Worro A & A, where you bin? All ok? ------------- Andrew |
Posted By: bob d
Date Posted: 28/March/2016 at 16:15
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Alan is retiring very soon so expect to see even more of them in the near future......could be messy. ------------- we're not brazil we're norn iron |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 28/March/2016 at 16:24
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Yes messy with a paint brush. It's his favourite hobby
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Posted By: sidsmum
Date Posted: 31/March/2016 at 21:45
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Thanks again to everyone who answered my questions on 25th March. We want to pay online. We have our senha de acesso internet. I've being looking at www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt and I can't even work out where to log in!!!! Help, please!!!! |
Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 00:00
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To pay online you need to go to your bank website, log in and pay with the references that are on the statement you got thru the post or online. Unlikely to be online if you can't get onto the site!! You need to register with the financas web site then you get send a code to log in. The normal looking log in boxes went a while back and I now find if I start clicking towards where I want to go - it then pops up the boxes for my name and passwords etc. ps both restaurant bills are lower for the Albufeira area - not sure about the house in the Loule area -------------
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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 08:44
| I went on line yesterday to find my multibanco code, and noticed that they also have the code for next November's payment up on line already. I have not tried to pay it yet, but could it be that they are waking up to the fact that some people want to get it all done at once, at last? Karen's (paper) bill - which also came yesterday - only has the code for April though. |
Posted By: sidsmum
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 08:59
Thanks Pete.
I definitely already have a password, and have now managed to log on at www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt I seemed to stubble across a log in box but I can't find anywhere obvious to pay. Even searching IMI pagamento has no results! Think I'll just phone my bank (Caixa Geral de Depósitos) in the UK to talk me through paying online via my bank account, as previous companies I've paid online have an IBAN etc. I don't want to get this payment wrong! We're not in Albufeira again til May. (Also have no idea what a house in Loule has to do with this - we have an apartment in Pateo, down the road from Cubsur!!!!) |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 09:27
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Still not received mine so I had better set aside a day to queue in Finanças and ask why. I paid last year's via my Millennium on line account using the same format as I used to do at a Multibanco, being careful to keep a copy of all the references. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 09:30
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Sidsmum I think what Pete is saying that the Council tax for his Restaurant in Albufeira is not as much as it was in previous years.(bobd did mention previously that council tax had gone down in Albufeira) His house in Loule is a different council and therefore his council tax on that can't be compared to Albufeira one as different councils charge different prices. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 09:47
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Sid - you cannot pay on the portalfinancas web site, you just get you payment refs from there and then go to your bank web site and from there its payment to estado and use the refs you have -------------
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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 11:21
Karen's only arrived yesterday Tom, and you have the whole month to pay, so I wouldn't go wasting a day just yet. There were dozens outside the Financas when I passed at ten to nine this morning. |
Posted By: ClaireKildare
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 12:27
| Just got mine yesterday. |
Posted By: sidsmum
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 15:10
Thank you for the info and that major clue "estado"......I thought I'd translated every possible online banking option. With your help I have found "Pagar ao Estado e sector público" Whoo hoo! And rest!!
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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 16:55
| I got my bills today - very pleasantly surprised . Its gone down from €1510 last year to €1057 this year . I don't know why it has gone down but happy nonetheless |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 01/April/2016 at 17:00
http://www.albufeira.com/forum/imi-bills_topic9321_post96417.html#96417 ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 02/April/2016 at 11:39
Checking back I didn't pay last year until the 10th, so I will give them another week. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: bob d
Date Posted: 02/April/2016 at 21:51
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Rate cut this year from 0.50% to 0.35%. I know not why but won't argue. ------------- we're not brazil we're norn iron |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 03/April/2016 at 11:31
A main reason is the completed payback of a bail out loan secured a few years ago, when the council ran out of cash under the previous administration. There is also what they describe as 'responsible budgeting'. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: GREENFIELD
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 07:16
Does anyone have an email address where I can request a copy of my IMI,April 2015. I have moved house and not received this years bill....  ------------- Heather |
Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 08:12
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The only way to get the bill is either by post, online at 'portaldefinancas' website or go to the financas building. -------------
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Posted By: stuart123
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 10:54
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I've received my bill, but my wife hasn't. Are the payment reference numbers the same on both halves of the bill as I don't want to risk paying late? |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 11:30
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I still haven't received mine. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 11:33
No, they're different ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: ClaireKildare
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 11:44
| Did the post office in Fumos Y Mitos reopen? I want to pay mine there next week if its open. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 13:50
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still not got ours either. Perhaps they are letting us off paying ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: bob d
Date Posted: 07/April/2016 at 23:00
 ------------- we're not brazil we're norn iron |
Posted By: jamieandanne
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 09:06
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We haven't got ours either, never happened before. Do we just go to the Finances place to pay it? What do we need to take (passport, old bills, fiscal number, etc, etc.......
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Posted By: port princess
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 10:18
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I would take last years bill and fiscal cards also be carefull as our friend did same as didn't receive bill they put the payment on to the last years so make sure you say for this year and on top of everything they fined them although they were in the wrong . ------------- Portprincess |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 11:07
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The Finanças should be able to issue a duplicate copy of this year's but make sure they understand that you haven't received the current one. Certainly take last years's with you, which has your address and NIF on it and a good book etc as you may be waiting there for hours. I have requested the Senha do Acesso for the Finanças website so I can try to pull off the details from there. I have better things to do with my time than queue for hours to try to pay a bill I haven't even been sent! ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 13:56
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I think its ridiculous when you get fined especially when you havn't received the bills. How the hell can you pay if you don't have them and don't have registered access to online facility. We got a fine a couple of years ago for same thing. Postman has just been and still no IMI bills. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: jamieandanne
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 17:41
| Been today and told because of all the new rules, some bills will not be sent until May/June. (funny, as the Irish woman in front of me was there for the same reason and she came away with her bills to pay next door ????????????) The woman who dealt with us, at one point said... because we were resident, retired and didn't earn money in PT we probably wouldn't get any more bills. She then disappeared and came back 15 minutes later and said we would receive our bills in due course. (May/June) All very strange. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 08/April/2016 at 18:32
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Very strange indeed. One wonders if they will waive the fines then for those who recieve them in May/June, when the IMI has supposedly to be paid by 30th April ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 09/April/2016 at 10:38
Fat chance. I've been trying to find out about this delay but so far without success. I shall ask some Portuguese persons tonight to see if they know. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 09/April/2016 at 13:12
Sounds a bit like legalised robbery then ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 09/April/2016 at 19:22
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So you get a 30% reduction & a 10% fine. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 10/April/2016 at 18:25
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Tom, did you find anything out off the Portuguese locals about what's happening with the IMI and why some have got them and others havn't? ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 11/April/2016 at 12:19
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I did post the question put on Trip Advisor. Something very odd going on they said. No-one is aware of any official announcement about why there is a delay in sending them and whether or not people should worry. A straw poll suggests that it is retired people and those without incomes here (ie don't pay tax) are the ones not getting their bills. I have asked for an access code to the Finanças website which I should get this week some time. That way I hope I can see whether or not I even have a bill to pay. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 11/April/2016 at 16:46
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Well I received my Senha do Acesso in the post this morning. I have dutifully logged into the website and there is nothing there for IMI 2015. The previous four years are plainly visible. So, nothing to do but wait. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 11/April/2016 at 16:55
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Tom loads of folks/expats on facebook Algarve pages havn't received their bills either. Not just Albufeira but other municipalities too . Everyone is wondering what's going on.
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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 12/April/2016 at 08:52
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But do not expect to be told! ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 16/April/2016 at 18:41
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Just been on one of the expats websites forum and folks are too talking about not receiving their IMI . These are their replies: " Can anyone throw any light on this? I have a house in central Portugal. I'm non resident and am currently at home in UK. My neighbour and fiscal representative has been looking in my post box for my annual bill from the council. It not having arrived he has been to the council offices where he normally pays the bill. They have told him that in rural areas they have separated the value of land and house and if they are below a certain value I will not be charged and that is what the computer says. It also applies to his house. I'm finding this difficult to believe. Has anyone else heard anything like this?" ----------------------------------------------------- Hi, We had the same yesterday when we tried to pay the IMI for a friend. After a lengthy explanation they told us that the policy changed in 2015 and affects all properties in Portugal. If a persons house is valued at €66,500 or less OR a resident is shown on their records as earning €14,600 or less per annum they are exempt from paying IMI. That is all we know. They did add that there are 'many many English people who do not know this'. We have fed this back to our friend, but would be interested to know if anyone else has been told the same. ------------------------------------------------ Thanks for the reply she******s. Guess I'm one of the many English who did not know. But good news. I'm going to drink a bottle of wine with the guy next door next time we go. Not that that is an unusual occurrence ------------------------------------------------- I didn't know about that, but I've just logged on to the Financas website and it is only showing IMI details for 2014 (issued in March 2015). There is nothing for 2015 which should have been issued in 2016. I'd forgotten that the bill was issued in March, I was expecting it in April. I've just checked our Caderneta Predial (also available online which I hadn't realised) and our property is rated way, way below the limit so it looks like we don't have to pay anything either! ----------------------------------------------------------- mmmmm, wonder what's going on. We have still not received ours either. BTW the quotes are from folks who have property in Central Portugal. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: stuart123
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 09:54
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Has your Caderneta Predial been updated with a more recent valuation? Think a lot were recalculated in 2014.
Unfortunately my apartment was rated at 144,000 euro, so I get a bill :-( |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 12:59
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"If a persons house is valued at €66,500 or less OR a resident is shown on their records as earning €14,600 or less per annum they are exempt from paying IMI." Well stap me vitals! I qualify on item 1 so it looks like I might have an extra €250 to waste on beer. I shall double check things tomorrow. Nice of 'em to actually tell us! Surely some accountant or lawyer must be able to point towards an official statement to this effect. And it is a nice feeling to be subsidised by all you rich people living in big villas with pools.  ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 13:36
Ours was revalued in Sept 2015 and we have had 4 notices from financas regarding the new revaluation. (why 4 notices saying exactly the same thing I do not know, what a waste of admin/money). Our valuation is below that figure due to it being an old casa pre 1951 so maybe if this is true that's why we havn't received ours either . Waits in anticipation with fingers and legs crossed. 
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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 17:07
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Where are all these properties for €66.5k or less Certainly none round here - be lucky to find a grotty 1 bed apartment in need of serious refurbishment for €80k ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 17:11
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"so it looks like I might have an extra €250 to waste on beer." I would never consider that a waste ------------- Colin |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 17/April/2016 at 18:30
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Dicey the figure quoted is the VP/VT valuation (rateable value) not the actual market value of what the property is worth when selling.
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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 18/April/2016 at 06:43
Ah, found it - it's 2 x 35,105 = 70,210. ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 19/April/2016 at 10:30
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Checked my Caderneta Predial and indeed I am still valued at under €65,000. Last revalued in 2009. I do not plan to spend my bonus in one go. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 19/April/2016 at 12:30
One pint at a time ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 19/April/2016 at 19:58
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Two more confirmations re IMI not being charged if your property VP is under €66,000. "Just paid mine. Neighbours couldn't as was told he now doesn't need to pay as his house is valued at less than 66,000€. Its not been evaluated for more than 25 years." (this is in Burgau. municipality of Vila Do Bispo) "Vila do Bispo Camera have indeed confirmed that they are not charging property tax on properties valued at less than 66K " ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: Norm55
Date Posted: 21/April/2016 at 00:10
| Can someone explain Dicey's formula above? Have not jad mine, am over here now and was going yo go doen to camara tomorrow morning and pay. If bills have not gone out, is this possible? |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/April/2016 at 06:00
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I think you need your IMI bill to find out what your VP is - last year's should do. I couldn't find any mention of it on the Financas website although it's bound to be there somewhere. My wife & I get an IMI Bill each so the total rateable value is 2x the value shown on each individual IMI Bill ------------- I hate how peopleï compare Frank Zappa to God. I mean, he's cool and great and nice and everything, but he's no Zappa. |
Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 21/April/2016 at 13:56
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"I couldn't find any mention of it on the Financas website although it's bound to be there somewhere." Once you are logged in, search for 'Caderneta Predial' or navigate to (there is a space between each) InÃcio, Os Seus Serviços, Património, Consultar, Imóveis, Património Predial and it will show your full details of property rating etc. You should end up on a page like this "https://www.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/pt/Pat/main.jsp?body=/ca/patrimonio.jsp" That shows a summary and at the bottom on the right is a link to a downloadable PDF document ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 21/April/2016 at 16:24
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Thanks, found it. Interestingly, it also shows that the valuation has more than doubled since the apartment was built in 1988.
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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 22/April/2016 at 11:10
Mine is similar, first registered in 1993 (although it is 20 years older than that) and value has also just about doubled. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 01/May/2016 at 00:19
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Just found these postings on facebook Algarve pages http://epaper.theportugalnews.com/ page 20 Letters to the Editor on 2nd column a persons views & their experience of the IMI debate. This other comment is posted by a Portuguese lady " There were a problem at the Tax authorities system, some tax payers did not receive the taxes due to be paid in april, you gonna receive it now a the limits was extended until the end of May." mmmmmmm awaits in anticipation for the truth to unfold.
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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 01/May/2016 at 11:18
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I was also told first hand yesterday that two others in my block, who asked at Finanças and were given the same answer, that those IMI bills not yet sent out will be sent during May. The change in in legislation with the new exemptions was 'to blame'. ------------- Albufeira Resident www.algarvebus.info public transport information for the Algarve |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 26/May/2016 at 00:23
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well we ain't still got ours as yet and supposedly they extended to end of May for payment, What's going on? What a cock up,how can the tax office get it so wrong. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: jamieandanne
Date Posted: 26/May/2016 at 10:09
| I think you will be one of the lucky ones to be exempt Jayjan. We got ours 2 weeks ago and it was reduced by 30% so thankful for small mercies . Therefore living here all the time, being retired and not earning money in Portugal had nothing to do with it! |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 27/May/2016 at 23:10
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Here's hoping jamieandanne. I hate to think that the bill has got lost somewhere in the postal system (although saying that, it has never happened before) and we are still liable & for a fine also. The only way you can find that out is when they put a charge on your bank account or be registered with financas website of which we arn't. We will see. ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: cheekygirl
Date Posted: 29/May/2016 at 22:46
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Our daughter is staying in Albufeira in a villa. The villa was robbed last night along with other villas. Check your security. ------------- Loving it in the sun |
Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 29/May/2016 at 23:02
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Scumbags. Hope they are ok, did they take any of their personal stuff Elaine? ------------- Polli the dancing cat strikes again. |
Posted By: cheekygirl
Date Posted: 29/May/2016 at 23:57
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One mobile phone and camera. ------------- Loving it in the sun |