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Topic: Buying a holiday home in albufeira
Posted By: Zozo
Subject: Buying a holiday home in albufeira
Date Posted: 06/August/2020 at 21:08
Hi everyone. My husband and I are hoping to buy an apartment in a complex in Albufeira. We are coming over to view in October (all being well with coronavirus etc). When talking to my friend today, she raised concerns about what if the complex goes into administration in the future. Also, my mum is saying we should wait and see how things go. We are committed to buying and are wondering has anyone bought a holiday home and regretted it? Or should we just go for it? We are 34 and 37 with a 21 month old son. We'd hope to get out 5/6 times a year. What I'm asking is, did anyone think it was money well spent and are glad they bought, or did they regret it and rather have more money to live on a monthly basis, by not having a second property. I hope this makes sense? Thanks.



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Posted By: port princess
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 09:03
I have had my apartment here 15 years and love it pm me your budget as my neighbour has one he is selling and I can send you some photos of our pool etc fees low ,
ours is small condo only 15 apartments really lovely
Patricia

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Posted By: JuliejH
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 10:26
Buying off plan on a brand new complex could be risky , there are empty building in Albufeira that definitely caught investors out ! If the complex is established and already up and running that is much less risky ! There are many apartments for sale that are in lovely complexes, whilst you are over see as many as you can to give yourself plenty of options ! Good luck 🤗


Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 10:44
as well as the nice people above ...  you could start here  
https://www.kyero.com/en/albufeira-property-for-sale-0l56299" rel="nofollow - https://www.kyero.com/en/albufeira-property-for-sale-0l56299

Also I recommend Helena Dias  +351 289 582 041


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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 11:38
Is this the time to buy?  Surely there's another recession fast approaching.  You may be buying at the top of the market.  If you wait you should be able to pick up bargains.

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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 13:21
Rule 1) Do not buy off plan
Rule 2) Do not listen to an estate agent who only shows you new builds
Rule 3) Get an independent solicitor, do not use the one the estate agent recommends, or let the agent do all the paperwork (as they are allowed to over here) in order to save a few hundred euros.  


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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 14:07
I'll second that.
Dont put it off- if you find something you like and it all checks out buy it


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 07/August/2020 at 23:08
Excellent advice from Algarveaddick when buying a property, stick to that and you won't go far wrong.
 BTW rule 3 as AA says  is an absolute  must,  make sure you get your own independant lawyer who works for you and  your best interests. mmmm saying that finding a good one can be a problem. Maybe some members can recommend ones that can be trusted to do an honest job for you.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 08/August/2020 at 09:18
Sound advice above. Do check the ownershop situation carefully. Some complexes are owned by a kind of holding company, some are 'owned' by the residents and administered by a management company appointed by the resident's AGM. This is all set out in law for everyone's protection.

I also will suggest visting the apartment block at night. That way you may get a better idea of whether there are noisy neighbours, barking dogs, busy night-time traffic, a night-club nexxt door etc etc.


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Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 08/August/2020 at 20:06
Originally posted by Zozo Zozo wrote:

Also, my mum is saying we should wait and see how things go.

Just my opinion which means nothing.
I think your Mum is wise. 
Would not think the pound will go much lower against Euro after all it has had Brexit thrown at it. Had, if the numbers are believed, the worst kicking from Corona.
Looking at things the virus is not going to be going anywhere fast, fresh outbreaks all over Europe which may continue for a long time yet, hopefully not but. 
A lot of people who rely on the rental income especially high summer rental to pay the mortgage are going to be feeling the pinch. People who were maybe contemplating buying from UK France as well as Portugal and elsewhere may not be now in a position to do so.
All in all I do not think property prices are going to be surging forward anytime soon.
And Mum always knows best LOL.
Good luck whatever you decide.


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 08/August/2020 at 23:51
Well said tonisdad in these uncertain times . Personally I think this unfortunate  sh*te  is gonna be with us for a long while  and will affect everything you said  regarding buying property or  even owning it. Hold fire and see what the future brings.

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Posted By: laura75
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 10:01
We went to Alvor in Feb on a viewing trip and bought an apartment. We had the opportunity to pull out when the world shut down - but we decided to go ahead. We haven’t yet been able to visit for obvious reasons. We have had work done, have had copious amounts of furniture delivered etc and not for a second do I regret it. On tenterhooks awaiting Boris’ next announcement but whatever happens we’ll get there eventually to our own slice of heaven. If it what you want, go for it. Good luck


Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 11:47
No-one I know in any serious position thinks the pound will `rise` again ... the writing has been on the wall for some time ... we had the chance to join the euro at 1.65 when it came in, but ever since the european currency has come up trumps. Several years ago I said on this forum that it should be around 1.10 (proper value) ... but now we are out in cold that is untenable .. 1.00 would be good ..

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Posted By: Gazza
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 12:20
No-one I know in any serious position thinks the pound will `rise` again ... the writing has been on the wall for some time ... we had the chance to join the euro at 1.65 when it came in, but ever since the european currency has come up trumps. Several years ago I said on this forum that it should be around 1.10 (proper value) ... but now we are out in cold that is untenable .. 1.00 would be good ..

Agree, the pound could well fall below the euro after brexit is done and dusted. A far cry from 2002 when I was getting €1.52 for £1


Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 12:24
Decent property will always hold its value at the minimum ( ok might dip short term) but more likely go up so if you have funds to buy and see something you like buy it.
Its rarely best to delay because as you do delay it becomes I wish I had done it
Life is too short for 'if only I had done it'


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 15:42
Originally posted by pyrman pyrman wrote:

No-one I know in any serious position thinks the pound will `rise` again ... the writing has been on the wall for some time ... we had the chance to join the euro at 1.65 when it came in, but ever since the european currency has come up trumps. Several years ago I said on this forum that it should be around 1.10 (proper value) ... but now we are out in cold that is untenable .. 1.00 would be good ..

Do they not really. Who are these people in serious positions? You must be a very very rich man with your great insight into currency fluctuations. I mean it only took about 5 years to get down to your predicted 1.10 last time you said it and that was due to one thing Brexit.
As I said my input for what it is worth.....


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 15:51
Originally posted by Richardk Richardk wrote:

Decent property will always hold its value at the minimum ( ok might dip short term) but more likely go up so if you have funds to buy and see something you like buy it.
Its rarely best to delay because as you do delay it becomes I wish I had done it
Life is too short for 'if only I had done it'

In the 2008 financial crisis house prices on average fell 20% . If things continue as they are with this virus we could hit the biggest recession in history all over Europe.
We are living in unprecedented times nobody has a glass ball.
As I said my opinion for what it`s worth.....


Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 16:26
I heard of a gypsy born with a glass eye.  I seems his father had a crystal ball.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 09/August/2020 at 20:14
My spies reported a couple of weeks ago that the new block of 30 or so apartments opposite me has been completely sold. Certainly the sales board has gone. I wonder who has bought them at the thick end of €200,000 for a T1? Maybe some big investor who will get his money back by renting them to tourists at some fantastic price per week.

Good decision or what?

With the poor exchange rate of £ to € affecting potential British buyers, along with the current uncertainties about life, the universe and everything, who will be bold enough to reduce their prices to get rid of a property they no longer want? Reducing price to get a sale has never been a Portuguese thing. And who, especially British, would be bold enough to buy at this time?


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Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 08:56
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

who will be bold enough to reduce their prices to get rid of a property they no longer want? Reducing price to get a sale has never been a Portuguese thing. 


Maybe not a case of no longer want. It maybe a case of can no longer afford.  The thing is it might not be their choice to reduce the price if they are mortgaged to the hilt be they Portuguese French British or any other nationality. And so starts the domino effect.


Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 13:51
Albufeira will be back, just as it was before .. most people have confidence in that (if not in the poor old out-of-date pound sterling) ... it will also grow ... and buy to let is still a very good option here .. 

As for the euro rate to pound, Tonisdad ... you are wrong again. Here is the historical chart, starting as I said at 1.65 euros ... pound was lower than 1.10 well before the Brexit vote ... but
of course did not take part in the `euro crisis` support of many smaller nations, plus Italy .. giving sterling a `boost` in the interim period .. here is your homework ..
https://www.macrotrends.net/2553/euro-british-pound-exchange-rate-historical-chart" rel="nofollow - https://www.macrotrends.net/2553/euro-british-pound-exchange-rate-historical-chart


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Posted By: Gazza
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 15:31
Pyrman,  Looking at the chart it tally's with the rates I was getting in 2002, 2004 and 2009. The chart will be showing the market rate and the tourist rate is always a few cents less. In 2002 Sept.......€1.52, chart says €1.58 and in 2004 Sept...... €1.43, chart says €1.47. In 2009 Sept €1.08, chart says €1.11. June 22nd 2016 it stood at €1.23.
 


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 16:41
Originally posted by pyrman pyrman wrote:


As for the euro rate to pound, Tonisdad ... you are wrong again. Here is the historical chart, starting as I said at 1.65 euros ... pound was lower than 1.10 well before the Brexit vote ... but
of course did not take part in the `euro crisis` support of many smaller nations, plus Italy .. giving sterling a `boost` in the interim period .. here is your homework ..
https://www.macrotrends.net/2553/euro-british-pound-exchange-rate-historical-chart" rel="nofollow - https://www.macrotrends.net/2553/euro-british-pound-exchange-rate-historical-chart

Trouble is that way before 2012 when you joined this forum so you can hardly have been spouting your predictions before then on here  if you remember it was mid 2013 you were giving your predictions. As I said it took about 4 years and Brexit before that came about.
So wrong again are you sure?
So how much did you make then with you wonderful insight into currency exchange rates? One thing for certain if I thought the pound was way out of sync at 1.65, as you imply you did, I would have been buying hand over fist. 



Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 16:43
Originally posted by Gazza Gazza wrote:

Pyrman,  Looking at the chart it tally's with the rates I was getting in 2002, 2004 and 2009. The chart will be showing the market rate and the tourist rate is always a few cents less. In 2002 Sept.......€1.52, chart says €1.58 and in 2004 Sept...... €1.43, chart says €1.47. In 2009 Sept €1.08, chart says €1.11. June 22nd 2016 it stood at €1.23.
 

You buy euros a few cents less than the official rate, really I did not think anybody still did that.


Posted By: tonisdad
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 16:46
Couple more of the Albufeira.com closed shop gang of 8 to come along yet and have a pop at somebody for having the audacity to have a different opinion. LOLLOLLOL.



Posted By: tiganut
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 19:15
I bought right at the top of the market,in 2008,a few months later,I had lost a lot of money.My house has still not recovered,but time will tell.I would just like to get there,& use it.For those who make fortunes on the FX market,a mate of mine bought around the same time,I got 1.46,he got high 120's,iirc,& he was a city broker,retired at 40!IMHO,the only ones that know,are the ones that dictate the figures,like George Soros.

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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 10/August/2020 at 20:18
It's a pretty good guess that there is a recession coming for us all.  I can't see what's to prevent it.  Maybe not for China who, having given us the virus, is now selling us the gloves and masks to deal with it.  A neat little circle.


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Posted By: Gazza
Date Posted: 11/August/2020 at 10:04
730,000 people in the UK have lost their jobs since March, figures just released.


Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 11/August/2020 at 12:26
And another 2500 from Debenhams,just released. 

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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 11/August/2020 at 13:47
A friend out here is looking to upgrade and has been told by several agents that demand is high from French and Italian buyers so pound/euro exchange rate is irrelevant to them and as a result prices are holding/rising. Whilst there is uncertainty  not everyone has been financially  mauled by the crisis and will continue to buy.
We can all look back and use hindsight to see what did/didnt work for them but the fact remains if you wait for everything to be perfect it will be too late and the market will have moved on without you


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 12/August/2020 at 08:00
Buyers from France have certainly been around in numbers for a good while now. With their early retirement schemes they probably have the money to spend.


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Posted By: sean67
Date Posted: 08/March/2021 at 20:38
I keep an eye on property in the Algarve, seems to have gone up in recent years. Sterling is now at 1.16 atm. Is there a trend in price increase or decrease lately.

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Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 09/March/2021 at 09:59
Properties that you would think have been ambitiously (dear) priced seem to have sold quickly so  there is money about both here and in UK. - I saw a restored Bond Bug (remember them them?) sell at auction for £27000 yes £27000 so people have money to spend


Posted By: Teresa
Date Posted: 09/March/2021 at 14:43
Does anyone know how pricing trends in Albufeira compare to other towns in Algarve?  Or do they all generally move in tandem?  

I'm not very familiar with many other Algarve towns but, a while back, I read that Lagos' popularity has grown due to fewer crowds and its cultural authenticity??  But, given its distance from the main Lisbon/Albufeira highway (forget which hwy it is now), I would have thought Albufeira would be the more popular choice??  Has Albufeira become overpriced?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 10/March/2021 at 08:26
Prices for new property here in Albufeira are verging on the outrageous. Across the road from me a two bed apartment was sold for €250,000 and similar is not unusual. Then consider the annual condominium charges. These are being bought by second home owners or by investment companies as holiday apartments. Older properties may seem better value but when repair and refurbishment works are added, still often fairly pricey.

Lagos is only about 40 minutes further drive from Lisbon or Faro airport than Albufeira. I would argue that Lagos is rapidly losing its cultural authenticity because of the growing number of hotels, holiday homes and Airnbnb type lettings.

As has been said, there is plenty of money around. French buyers have been numerous this past few years, before that it was Russians. Albufeira isvery popular with English speaking people. Other towns like Faro and Portimão, which are not actually on the coast and don't have so many 'foreigners' in residence, would be less expensive for those very reasons.

There are plenty of estate agents websites (they often use the American English words 'real estate') where you can get an idea of current prices. One thing that does not usually happen here is haggling. The price is usually fixed and often as not the seller won't accept a penny less.

I often see this company's signs around town - https://www.cerronovo.com/ and these www.era.pt


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Posted By: JuliejH
Date Posted: 10/March/2021 at 10:14
We purchased ours through Certo Novo, they were excellent and we would highly recommend them to anyone interested in the area .
Another consideration would be to look slightly in land towards Guia.


Posted By: Teresa
Date Posted: 10/March/2021 at 14:10
Thanks cubsur and JuliejH, appreciate the info.


Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 11/March/2021 at 09:53
I know this is about buying a property but be aware that the agents charge upwards of 5% + IVA for their services when you come to sell. I asked an agent for justification of their fees as in UK its 1 - 1.5%  - got a shrug of the shoulders and no answer.
It seems to be a licence to print money hence the ever increasing number of agents with ever bigger/shinier offices


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 12/March/2021 at 08:28
True enough Richard and I was told that is one reason why haggling over a price is almost unheard of is that it could seriously affect the agents income. In their eyes at least.


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Posted By: peteknopp
Date Posted: 12/March/2021 at 09:39
When you get an agent around to view/market your house, they will ask what price you expect and when you tell them, they will ask if that includes the agents 5%. If you say no, they will inform that you pay them 5% and do you want to up the price to cover the 5% you will lose. Its a joke!

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