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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31/August/2016 at 12:01
Many years ago,GB was asked if it wanted to be in the EEC ,or not.The vote was in favour.Had the country been asked if they wanted unelected comissioners interfering in our country,& costing extortionate amounts of money,I doubt the answer would have been the same.Failed politicians from every party seem to find well funded passtimes,as a thank you for not rocking the boat.Some even take the whole family along for the ride.
 Remember George Sorros playing God with sterling a few years ago,did our European friends step in?,yet a couple of days later we spent billions propping up the German currency.
 If David Cameron had come back from his last negotiations with something tangeble,the vote would probably have gone the other way,he didn't,so we will be out at some stage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31/August/2016 at 12:03
"Failed politicians from every party seem to find well funded passtimes.Some even take the whole family along for the ride."

Not wrong there mate - Farage has turned it into an art form!   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31/August/2016 at 14:59
As this thread’s originator, I’m reminded of the saying about the certainty of punishment for any kindness. Maybe, as events unfold, the picture will come together for us all.

For the record: No, tonisdad I’m not scaremongering neither, am I a festering Remain supporter, Phil.

I repeat, my source is a trusted one - concerned more about the neurotic direction/s now chosen by the UK’s population of Daily Mail readers, than its bunch of here-today-gone-tomorrow politicians. It’s also a series of entirely logical and inevitable scenarios. Any adult (i.e. anyone over 12 these days) who doesn’t listen to the BBC or MSM knows that our elected Betters don’t actually run anything. The civil service, (now thoroughly infiltrated by paid special advisors & special interest groups) table the options of best result, and the rubber stamp descends.

So, consider what we have so far;-

UK - Discussion over the future status of EU citizens in the UK and the need to ID & control future migration. Note please, not immigration, migration. Does anyone really believe ex-pats holding EU Passports are just going to walk back in without being subjected to some very carefully prepared scrutiny? HMRC has been (wet) dreaming over this for years, and all their Christmases are on the horizon. All those lovely data-bases whirring away.

·        Portugal – Cash deals over a certain limit to be outlawed; State to have access to all bank accounts. (Apparently ordered by the USA). Calls to increase local taxes for those having better views from their property than others.

Yes, it is early days – very, very early, but just like trains, wherever the track gets laid there go the engines - per the timetable, with all the very reluctant passengers on-board. All-Aboard!! next stop – Special Exemption Schemes granting access to the EU single market for the financial services sector and other non-EU ..... interests.

Finally, as I said before, all this does so remind me of what happened to the Brits who stayed behind in Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe during & after the UDI period. They believed they could just come back home. Some large mining companies did rather well from it all, as I recall but not the people.

We’re at the start of a rather long & subtle chess game – it’s just a game to the elites & multi-nationals - but rather important to everyone else.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31/August/2016 at 20:01
Wots this Brexit thing all about then?  Sounds fascinatin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 12:27
The pound sterling is rising,could be that other countries, as well as some CEO's, are changing their minds.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 13:47
Encouraging.  Hope it lasts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 15:18
Re - Making your family rich via the EU.Just follow the example set by Neil Kinnock ,now elevated to the House of Lords for his contribution to philanthropy and selfless devotion to the socialist principle of improving the lot of your fellow man.As was Ghengis Khan!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 16:59
Farage does.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 17:54
Originally posted by Analogue.man.in.a.di Analogue.man.in.a.di wrote:

I repeat, my source is a trusted one - The civil service, (now thoroughly infiltrated by paid special advisors & special interest groups.

So the assumption must be "your source" must be one of these paid special advisors as they seem to know a lot more about what is going to happen not going to happen than the Government does.

Does anyone really believe ex-pats holding EU Passports are just going to walk back in without being subjected to some very carefully prepared scrutiny?

I would think..dont know...would think the majority of ex-pats still hold UK passports so would have no problem. British born and bred I would not envisage any problem for said ex-pat.

·        Portugal – Cash deals over a certain limit to be outlawed; State to have access to all bank accounts.

      Can`t say I personally agree I am not averse to the odd cash deal myself but on the whole replace the word cash deal for tax avoidance deal and you have the same thing.

If you have nothing to hide in your bank account no problem again I can`t say I agree..but.


 

It`s coming mate so you will have to deal with it who knows it might be better it might be worse no one knows.......Oh your source might.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/September/2016 at 19:01
Wouldn't be surprised if it was Sir Nigel before long,as a reward for giving British people their second "finest hour".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/September/2016 at 09:09
That is a very disrespectful thing to say Phil. Comparing a coward who runs away from the chaos he has helped cause to the sacrifices ordinary British people made to defend their European counterparts 70 years ago. Shame on you, you WUM. My last word on this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/September/2016 at 10:52
It's now about getting the best deal for the UK.  Forget being pro or anti.  It's been decided. I know that the referendum doesn't bind a government.  A parliamentary vote can ignore it.  But that's not going to happen.  What we need is a strong opposition to test and check the legislation that brings our exit into being.  Sadly we have none.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/September/2016 at 11:32
Originally posted by Jock Jock wrote:

Wots this Brexit thing all about then?  Sounds fascinatin.


Jock

Brexit  pronunciation Brecks-it:
Noun from Oxford English Dictionary:
Used to describe person/persons who fall out with friends often close friends because of differing opinions.
Usually when both persons have not got a clue what they are on about and base their opinions on pure conjecture.

Hope that helps Jock Wink.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/September/2016 at 12:20
Good definition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/September/2016 at 14:09
The sacrifices ordinary British people made 70 years ago were to stop a German dominated Europe.  Since the collapse of the Soviet Union the EU (German dominated) has been expanding eastwards and has even financed the overthrow of the democratically elected Government in Ukraine.  The EU may be more polite to us than Germany was in WWII, ie not dropping bombs or shooting at us, but it still tells us what to do.
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