tonisdad wrote: Algarveaddick wrote: The figure for Syrian refugees is correct. If there are others, they are illegal immigrants, not refugees. Aid is another matter altogether, I don't recall even mentioning it, why do you bring it up? But again, as you quote, it's a decision by the British government, not the EU. Why do people insist on going off on tangents about non-EU nationals and UK government decisions when discussing the EU? It is odd. The French police the camp, the two countries work together. As previously stated, there is no reason to believe this will continue after Brexit. I did make a point of saying credible evidence Paul, the rantings of the Sun and Express certainly come nowhere near that, ever. I hope that none of your loved ones ever have the misfortune to be incapacitated. I'll leave that there. The 2 billion is a net gain, I can't help what you choose to believe, I just give you the facts. Others can judge your reasons for that. The bit about the Turkish president is again rather bizarre and the conclusion you draw from it totally off the scale. Perry nobody is saying there are not people on DLA etc who have the right to be...just there is a lot who should not be.....without the younger generation who my point was aimed at look at all the British blue badges in cars over here this time of year. Are they all unable to walk 50 metres or whatever it is to qualify? I don`t think so. Regards Turkey they are using the pressure of taking control of their borders as a bargaining/blackmail tool to gain EU entry...hence already shouting for 3 billion. What will they shout for if they do get EU entry they will want billions every month. Oh and another 75 million free to roam Europe at their will and no doubt our cost if we had chosen to remain. I`ve said my bit I`m off for a drink with my foreign mates up the road .

This quote "Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan criticized the European Union on Monday, saying the bloc had failed to fulfill its pledge to provide 3 billion euros of aid for migrants as part of a landmark deal to stem refugee flows to Europe." mentions nothing at all to suggest the conclusion you have drawn, Paul. There may be more that you have not posted, but from that quote, in isolation, it suggests no more than what it says. From him merely saying the EU has failed to fulfil a promise, you suddenly have Diss full of Turks ? What the hey?

In order for Turkey to get into the EU EVERY country has to say yes, every country has a veto. It was yet another red herring from the anti-Europe camp. Anyone with the vaguest notion of the history of that part of the world will be well aware that there is more chance of Charlton winning the league than either Greece or Cyprus giving them the nod...

Even if they did, at least we might get some decent footballers out of it, like Germany have.       

Oh, apropos of nothing, and here's a little gem from the archives of hypocrisy at it's very best: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/boris-johnson-turkey?utm_term=.dmpg4Ww8e4#.nu80GDolMG

How is going to a Grammer school a better education,Its a selective education for the few and paid for by the many.How do you know at the age of 11yrs that one child is brighter than another they all develop at different stages in their life.It isnt a race every child should be valued they are all gifted  in one way or another.but they should all be treated equally.

tonisdad wrote: carolenclive wrote: How is going to a Grammer school a better education,Its a selective education for the few and paid for by the many.How do you know at the age of 11yrs that one child is brighter than another they all develop at different stages in their life.It isnt a race every child should be valued they are all gifted  in one way or another.but they should all be treated equally. Money should be pumped into the schools we have already got,god knows their budgets have been cut dramatically over the past years and not put into creating an elite system that doesnt work. If you went to Grammer School you would have known it is a deeper education. Hence why my mates were playing football and I was doing homework. You would also know there was not only the 11+ there was the 12+ for later developers who might have slipped the net so to speak. By saying the system does not work is that through experiece you talk? Never mind we`ll keep the red flag flying high and keep the working class where they belong brothers.

I only went to a Secondary Modern School but I do know how to use the "quote" option

DICEYUK wrote: I only went to a Secondary Modern School but I do know how to use the "quote" option

So do I but my computers battery doesnt.It is dying on me

Just makes you wonder what they are going to deem as low consumption, surely they will have to put a figure on it.

Has anyone received their IMI bills in the post yet?
thanks

Same in UK though an empty property is discounted for  6 months but after that an empty property the council adds stupid amounts to the council tax bill after that, so same principle. Not sure if they spy on utilities though like PortugaL. Although saying that, wonder if the ratio is same for holiday properties in UK as it is in Portugal or even any other country.