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Topic: More ruins to admire
Posted By: cubsur
Subject: More ruins to admire
Date Posted: 27/June/2012 at 09:59
If things weren't bad enough, these solar panels started to appear outside Camping Albufeira about 3 weeks ago. Doesn't anyone here ever think things through? Predictable, not even half way through the job, work stopped, site cleared and everything left to blot the landscape.




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Posted By: Christina
Date Posted: 27/June/2012 at 12:33
Thumbs Down What an eyesore, I hate seeing things like this ruining our lovely landscape...

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Posted By: Chrissy63
Date Posted: 27/June/2012 at 14:14
An eyesore & a total waste of money.

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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 27/June/2012 at 15:29
And it's built where hundreds of cars that can't get onto the campsite park in August. Where are they going to put them I wonder?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 22/August/2012 at 09:19
Here's the answer - underneath them. They are now nothing more than giant sunshades. Picture taken yesterday.





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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 22/August/2012 at 09:55
Well that strikes me as a great idea, shade for the cars with the roof being solar panels, great idea, all they need do is start harvesting from the panels!

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Posted By: john2604smith
Date Posted: 22/August/2012 at 10:24
Beats me why there isn't more of the PV panels (electricity producing) and more domestic wind turbines around. The two things in abundance on the Algarve is Sun and wind ! 

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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 22/August/2012 at 15:08
Because it is along term investment John, Portugal is only interested in what it can get TODAY. Dead  


Posted By: Super__Ally
Date Posted: 22/August/2012 at 16:33
Originally posted by john2604smith john2604smith wrote:

Beats me why there isn't more of the PV panels (electricity producing) and more domestic wind turbines around. The two things in abundance on the Algarve is Sun and wind ! 
 
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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/August/2012 at 10:39
Originally posted by john2604smith john2604smith wrote:

Beats me why there isn't more of the PV panels (electricity producing) and more domestic wind turbines around. The two things in abundance on the Algarve is Sun and wind ! 


There are masses of wind turbines around Lagos and in the hills above Silves.

Myself and the only other permanent resident in our little block would love solar panels on the roof, but it needs the agreement of the other owners and that will never happen.


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Posted By: steven.vanessa
Date Posted: 23/August/2012 at 11:03

Why wont they go for it Cubsur? is it purely down to aesthetics?



Posted By: john2604smith
Date Posted: 23/August/2012 at 11:55
"There are masses of wind turbines around Lagos and in the hills above Silves."

I have seen these Tom but I am referring to the little domestic ones for Residential properties. I would love them myself, (PV panels and domestic wind turbine) even in the UK but the various Governments make it difficult to purchase by reducing incentives, yet at the same time spending billions on massive offshore wind farms !  Confused 


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/August/2012 at 19:41
Oh, right. I have seen the odd one or two around but I will bet that there are licence fees and all sorts of bureaucracy that put people off.

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Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 23/August/2012 at 22:46
I wonder where I heard about such lovely red tape before !!!


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 23/October/2012 at 18:08
Three years on, what a pleasant view!




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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 21/June/2013 at 16:14
Remember this one in the Avenida da Liberdade, opposite where the sand sculptures now are? Walked past there yesterday and men working! Going to be called Verasol apartments. Meanwhile the huge block a couple of door down remains empty and derelict.






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Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 21/June/2013 at 22:29
The only positive thing about it is at least its keeping some construction workers in a job & earning money, The downside is will it be another building left to go to the wind.

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 06/July/2013 at 16:57
I spotted another abandoned resort the other day, which I hadn't noticed before. This one is called Clube Varandas do Castelo and is not far the Praia do Castelo near Galé. It's quite big too. You can see the red and white 'for sale' sign.





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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 06/July/2013 at 22:07
Yep. This is the property on the for sale board earlier in your gallery.
It is amazing that a business plan exists that has credibility to get the finance that this can be built from scratch and then... S, h, one t!
They got that far, just one step from opening and starting to recover money... And they fall. Sad and amazing.
That accepted, how damning is it that here is the golden opportunity for some one to walk in... But nobody is or has!
Worrying.

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 30/August/2013 at 17:06
Someone has decided that the almost built half of Farm Village, down by the marina, shouuld get a coat of paint. For what reason escapes me!






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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 30/August/2013 at 17:11
To keep the licence current Tom. After a certain period of time without any work or progress on the site the licence or planning permission is lost, so every so often, to keep their options open, they have to do a bit. Same as that hotel you clocked for the first time just off the island on your walk back from Salgados a few weeks back.

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Posted By: S1gh
Date Posted: 30/August/2013 at 21:27
Whilst over in June we stayed in a apartment in Bay View and found another abandoned development behind there. Sales office empty, all apartments empty, swimming pool full of dirty water, such a shame.


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 31/August/2013 at 11:42
Same all over I'm afraid. And yet still they allow more.


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Posted By: S1gh
Date Posted: 01/September/2013 at 00:02
We had never been to albufeira till just over 3 years ago and have just booked our 10th visit, yep we love the place!
On our first visit we talked about looking at property , this turned into enquiries, turned into emails with agents, turned into viewing properties, turned into seeing all the empty/unfinished buildings turned into reading all the negative comments, turned into deciding on just staying with taking holidays in Albuferia and other countries ................who's missing out?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 02/September/2013 at 12:51
June 2013
and September 2013







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Posted By: john2604smith
Date Posted: 02/September/2013 at 18:47
Wow !  what a difference !!

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 26/September/2013 at 14:27
Another lot I hadn't seen before, pictured yesterday. This mess is between Olhos D'Agua and Açoteias on the street called Rua Nossa Senhora de Fátima. There were a few blokes banging and crashing somewhere on site, but I couldn't see what they were doing. The site is quite large and reminded me of the infamous Crowne Plaza.



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Posted By: pyrman
Date Posted: 27/September/2013 at 12:34
Tom,  putting various things together ... coming out of recession in west and north europe, usa and canada ... the completion of expansion of Faro airport from 6 million to 8 million pa ... the recent return to high summer occupancy in Albufeira ... the winning of huge contracts in North Africa for Portuguese builders ... certainly creates a lot of optimism and the prospect that these local projects will come to life again quite soon. There`s also that `rumour` about a theme park ...

Since the `vuelta espana`was going through Cambrils and Salou recently and up to Tarragona ... I watched it and then took the STREETVIEW around many favourite haunts from 10-15 years ago. I DREAD to think how the likes of Old Town could cope with the kind of expansion that has hit that area ... if those millions (and more) descend here.




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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 27/September/2013 at 13:55
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

Another lot I hadn't seen before, pictured yesterday. This mess is between Olhos D'Agua and Açoteias on the street called Rua Nossa Senhora de Fátima. There were a few blokes banging and crashing somewhere on site, but I couldn't see what they were doing. The site is quite large and reminded me of the infamous Crowne Plaza.

Same place here showing the one completed villa & the finished apartments across the road built by the same Company -
http://albufeira.com/FORUM/more-apartments-being-built_topic5060_post75083.html#75083


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 27/September/2013 at 15:14
Seven years and virtually nothing done? Even I know that raw concrete will deteriorate over time exposed to the elements. They will probably fall down before they are sold.


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Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 27/September/2013 at 15:46
There's a cream coloured villa on the opposite side of the road that's been up for sale for 4 or 5 years - the want 850,000 for it  LOL.
Can't see anyone buying that to live next to a building site and/or a ruin

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 17/October/2013 at 08:55
A ruin that's slightly different. Not far from me is this old farmhouse. Someone has obviously tried to do it up in the not too recent past but didn't carry the project through. The main building is substantially intact but the outbuildings are in ruins. It's on just about the highest point in Páteo and has commanding views over the whole area.

If I had half a million quid...

More pictures later today.




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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 01/November/2013 at 17:58
The Albufeira Crowne Plaza site from up on high taken 1st November

http://wp.me/p16mGY-wy" rel="nofollow - http://wp.me/p16mGY-wy


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Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 06/December/2013 at 18:41
We have fell in love with Albufeira and are now thinking of buying an apartment but reading the previous replies it does put you off. Has property started to sell or do you think the prices will keep dropping? Has any body bought and regretted it? 


Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 06/December/2013 at 18:52
I think prices have steadied and are now realistic for the most part. I don't see why anyone would regret buying if they do their homework properly and take sensible advice.


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 06/December/2013 at 18:59
It is a big decision and i am sure that we will buy, just really trying to save a bigger deposit for now. I am keeping a close eye on properties in the Santa Eulalia area as that is where we like the best.


Posted By: Irispad
Date Posted: 06/December/2013 at 21:47
Absolutely agree about taking proper advice,as for regretting it ... Best thing we ever did


Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 06/December/2013 at 22:05
Just some thoughts, intended to be encouragement, not punishment....

It seems that you know what you want. Refine that to one or two properties the next time you are there. You might not get these but it will be a learning curve anyway.

If you are using a Portuguese bank for a mortgage, get clarity on how much they are likely to advance to you based on THEIR valuation (your valuation or the sellers valuation are not what matters....). Select a lawyer you can trust and FIX the fees, no extras. Once the approximate purchase price is known, the extra costs (and there are quiet a few) will be easily calculated. Think about getting the lawyer to include a low cost 'will' at the same time.

Ensure that the property taxes and future utility bills will be sent to you on-line and paid by DD from your Portuguese. Then enjoy......... Simples.

BTW, there is lots of proper advice available on various forums, much better than my rattling on...


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 07/December/2013 at 08:11
We do have two places in mind Quinta pedra dos biscos and parque da cocorvada, love the location of pedra dos biscos. Very helpful advice j2me thankyou, can you tell me the forums you refer too please. 


Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 07/December/2013 at 13:15
I suggest you look at this one first:

http://www.expatfocuscom/expatriate-forums-portugal

As we are kind of limited regarding the posting of links (for good reason), I ensured that the above is not a link because I removed the . just before the com. Simply copy the string of text I put above this paragraph, paste it into your browser address bar and ensure you add the dot in the right place to make it work. Lots of sound advice in there.


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 07/December/2013 at 20:40
Best thing we ever did. Absolutely no regrets at all. Just go for it.
If you don't you might end up regretting it forever.


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Posted By: gerry
Date Posted: 08/December/2013 at 00:53
Great advice JT2m you say it all in a nutshell can I just add if there is anything you don't understand fully ask and ask again until you do, we have some apartments in Corcovada and can recommend the condo, it has won TripAdvisor no.1 condo in Albufeira for the last 2 years also I think there are other condos equally as good, good luck in your search and enjoy.
G.


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 08/December/2013 at 08:39
Hi Gerry, do you rent them out or keep for your own use only? My husband wants to be able to keep for our own use only but let friends and family use, i am thinking if we rent out will help with the finances. We could remortgage here to have the funds to buy, but only have 3 years left on current mortgage so would be better saving 30 per cent deposit then getting additional mortgage to buy in Albufeira i think?? My luck prices will then increase. Job to know what the best option is.


Posted By: Irispad
Date Posted: 08/December/2013 at 11:15
I think it all depends on your personal circumstances.When we bought we had very good advice from a number of different sources....as for renting out,if it is to be your 'home from home' chances are you'll not want to put it on the holiday rentals market. We took the view that if we could not afford to pay for it without renting out we wouldn't bother,although family and friends are welcome.You'll love it and wish you'd done it years ago!


Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 08/December/2013 at 14:42
The question that you need to ask yourselves is simple - is this an investment or is it for pleasure.

If it for pleasure, end of story. Take your time. Select the cheapest source of finance (the lowest interest rate), be that UK or Portugal. Simply put, this is an almost hassle free strategy and an ideal solution for many. If you can afford this approach, it is only a question of how much you can afford. The selection of a property will be the result of trade-offs (location, condition and size being the obvious concerns).

If it is for investment, there are two returns possible. The first is income. The best you can realistically hope for here is to subsidise the cost of investment. However, that subsidy will possibly allow you to purchase a more desirable property which you would not otherwise achieve. There will be little or no 'profit' for several years because there is so much competition for that business in Albufeira. Just look around and you to see the situation. At the same time, there are lots of holidaymakers. Think of 'supply and demand'. Think about what the holiday maker actually wants and is willing to pay for.

The second return will arise from capital appreciation (the rising value of the property, assuming there is a rise in value). You will not achieve this until you sell the property, and for most people, that is not their plan in the first place. If this is your strategy, then think 'location, location, location'.

Just some last words to motivate you - 'Dream'. Hopefully this helps to build the encouragement you need to put more effort into making your dream come true.


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 09/December/2013 at 17:12
Looks like it will be for pleasure and a remortgage here. Not very many properties for sale though, where we would like to be.  


Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 09/December/2013 at 18:33
Originally posted by MIA572 MIA572 wrote:

Looks like it will be for pleasure and a remortgage here. Not very many properties for sale though, where we would like to be.  


Are you only searching on-line or have you physically looked around the area?


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 09/December/2013 at 19:33
looking on line at right move portugal. Will there be places for sale that don't show on there? 


Posted By: cheekygirl
Date Posted: 09/December/2013 at 23:12
You need to be looking on the Albufeira estate agents, We bought ours from a company called Remax they have a lot of choice. I am sure people on here will give you some more estate agents to look at. If you go in Google and put in properties for sale in Albufeira I am sure there will be plenty to look at.

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Posted By: port princess
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 08:47
We bought ours 9 years ago best thing we did ,just retired so will use more now ,as cheeky girl said there is plenty about out there to view ,my friend has a lovely flat in Santa Eulalia and know there's some for sale .good luck

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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 12:27
Hello and welcome to the forum.
What area are you looking in? There's a nice semi with own pool for sale near us.
Also, what part of Shropshire are you, if you don't mind me asking, we're right on the border so might be nearby. PM if you prefer.


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Posted By: MrsDKildare
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 15:49
We bought an apartment in the old town two years ago and must say we should have done it years ago!!! After a long trawl through all the websites we picked five to view on day 1, cut it down to the top 2 to revisit on day 2, put in an offer on our favourite that evening and  visited a Solicitor in Almancil on the way back to the airport on day 3. Five weeks later we had the key. All sorted. Best advice I could give is to do the majority of the research from home, keep a tight shortlist when you go to view the properties and stock to what you want to see, not what the estate agents want to sell you!! Good Luck, I wish you many years of sunshine in your holiday home.x



Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 16:47
Hi, we are looking in Santa Eulalia area as really like the area and know it well. We are from Market Drayton. Which are is the semi with pool in?


Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 17:00
Vale de Parra, about three kilometers west.

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Posted By: J2me
Date Posted: 10/December/2013 at 18:21
I'm bonkers as some of the others here will testify - so take my advice with a pinch bucket of salt. The on-line search is always useful - that cannot be denied. But add to that.

Travel & accommodation in Albufeira is very cheap for January - early March. Book a long weekend in Santa Eulalia, right on the doorstep of where you are searching. When you are in town, plan some walkabouts. Bring your camera, notepad and pencil. Enjoy the weekend. Plot and scheme again at home. Make a few calls if it suits you. Until you have sounded out your ability to access funds, you are limited on how much forward momentum you can make.

What harm. It will be a learning exercise and you enjoy the weekend....  Smile


Posted By: MIA572
Date Posted: 11/December/2013 at 16:38
You are my kind of shopper Mrs Kildare! Your trip to buy sounds like a good plan. Finance is going to be the biggest problem now as  we have a really good mortgage deal here that we cant get again if we remortgage so best to get a 2nd mortgage, but been advised we would need 30 percent deposit. Which unless stock markets improve to get some cash back isn't going to be very soon. Will keep saving though and dreaming.Lol


Posted By: DICEYUK
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 17:32
Interesting video report on BBC News this morning about Porto

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25573766


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 20/February/2014 at 16:35
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

Avenida da Liberdade June 2013



and September 2013







February 20th 2014 -I wonder how many they will sell?




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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 16/May/2014 at 11:27
Palm Village at the Marina - shock horror!

Cycled past yesterday. One of the cranes moved. Then I saw a few blokes working, well standing around in hard hats so I assume they were supposed to be working.


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Posted By: steven.vanessa
Date Posted: 16/May/2014 at 11:40
Are these finished yet Cubsur?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 16/May/2014 at 16:21
Do you mean Farm Village?

If so, nowhere near. Apart from the coat of paint nothing has happened for years. No glazin,no doors etc although is not easy to see inside as there is a high fence and high around the site.

I can see it better from high up here, so perhaps a look later.


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Posted By: steven.vanessa
Date Posted: 29/May/2014 at 07:14
Sorry forgot about this, I was meaning the ones on Avenida da Liberdade Cubsur sorry, how are they looking now?


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 29/May/2014 at 08:45
Last time I looked they were substantially complete. I will be back next week and once I have sorted out my own disasters I will take a look when down in town.


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Posted By: steven.vanessa
Date Posted: 29/May/2014 at 12:34

Thanks Cubsur, its amazing to think they were once old toilets and a large cliff face and now look at it.



Posted By: Spyderpig
Date Posted: 13/June/2014 at 22:01
I heard a whisper today that work on phase 2 of the marina will recommence next month.


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 14/June/2014 at 11:20
I will believe that when I see it. Good view from up here.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 29/June/2014 at 10:09
After seemingly weeks and weeks of inactivity, things are stirring at that new block in Avenida da Liberdade. The red signs in the windows say ´Vendido' - sold.




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Posted By: lucyr
Date Posted: 29/June/2014 at 10:12
Wow, almost finished at last.

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 13/July/2014 at 11:25
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

If things weren't bad enough, these solar panels started to appear outside Camping Albufeira about 3 weeks ago. Doesn't anyone here ever think things through? Predictable, not even half way through the job, work stopped, site cleared and everything left to blot the landscape.




Spotted yesterday that all the panels are now complete but I could not figure out whether or they were actually connected to anything.


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 15/July/2014 at 12:48
Originally posted by lucyr lucyr wrote:

Wow, almost finished at last.


All the building material has been cleared from the front and they look ready to ... stay empty for years. I will see if I can get a picture later.


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Posted By: lucyr
Date Posted: 15/July/2014 at 12:56
Thanks Tom, I found a site a few months ago, which displayed prices, can't remember off the top of my head how much they were asking, but do remember feeling they were a bit pricey.

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 17/July/2014 at 10:13
I'd imagine they would be expensive given the location. Here's the place, all clean and ready to go. There are half a dozen 'Vendido' signs to be seen, obviously either bought off-plan or a ruse by the developer to make people think they are selling.




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Posted By: lucyr
Date Posted: 17/July/2014 at 11:04
Thanks for that photo, so nice to see all the rubbish taken away, as you say, location, location, location, thanks again.


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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 17/July/2014 at 11:23
A quick hunt on t-internet reveals €134'500 for a T1, €204'000 for a T2 and €269'000 for a T3.

Age rather than location seems to be the major consideration in Albufeira. Newer builds = better building standards (supposedly) = higher prices.

The location isn't actually that great - think of the noise late at night in the summer, the view isn't exactly picturesque, the lack of parking and there's no swimming pool as far as I can tell.

Like Cubsur I am not convinced that all the ones marked as sold actually are.


Posted By: lucyr
Date Posted: 17/July/2014 at 11:43
Thanks for that, I was thinking of location, as you say there are quite a few downsides to the location. It will be interesting to see how quickly or slowly they sell, thanks again.


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Posted By: KeithBlumr
Date Posted: 17/September/2014 at 08:03
Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

Originally posted by cubsur cubsur wrote:

If things weren't bad enough, these solar panels using http://www.shinesolar.net/products/off-grid-mono-panels" rel="nofollow - solar energy started to appear outside Camping Albufeira about 3 weeks ago. Doesn't anyone here ever think things through? Predictable, not even half way through the job, work stopped, site cleared and everything left to blot the landscape.




Spotted yesterday that all the panels are now complete but I could not figure out whether or they were actually connected to anything.
Yes these panels are very effective if plenty of sunshine is available..You can say it is ideal way to generate power from renewable resources of energy..


Posted By: Richardk
Date Posted: 17/September/2014 at 10:14
Yes if they are connected


Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 17/September/2014 at 10:38
Cars have been parking under them to shade them from the sun.

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Posted By: Andrew
Date Posted: 17/September/2014 at 20:57
They're still not commissioned?
They can plug them into our place if they want! LOL!

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 07/October/2014 at 15:37
Recognise this? Taken Monday afternoon, 6th October.






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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 08/October/2014 at 06:36
[QUOTE=cubsur] Recognise this? Taken Monday afternoon,

The abandoned complex on the hill overlooking the marina. Crowne Plaza?



Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 08/October/2014 at 10:36
Indeed it is. Gradually falling into ruin, building having been abandoned five years ago.

It amazes but doesn't surprise me that the construction companies are seemingly never penalised for leaving these half built sites to become derelict. They are all over the place.


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Posted By: simpson
Date Posted: 10/October/2014 at 12:21
They must have some money,  to waste it on unfinished  projects like that


Posted By: john2604smith
Date Posted: 10/October/2014 at 13:23
This may sound too simplistic but wouldn't it be more cost effective for a Company to move in and finish a project like the Crown Plaza rather than start a new one from scratch ?   Confused

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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 10/October/2014 at 14:07
Originally posted by john2604smith john2604smith wrote:

This may sound too simplistic but wouldn't it be more cost effective for a Company to move in and finish a project like the Crown Plaza rather than start a new one from scratch ?   Confused


I've often thought so too but there are too many unknowns. The original developer may still own the site or have long term aims of completion when the financial climate improves.

I would have thought some planning incentives could be offered to new developers to take over unfinished sites rather than new ones.



Posted By: Jayjan
Date Posted: 10/October/2014 at 16:38
Common sense Big Col,  but its something the Camara (council) seem to lack the knowledge of. Smile   

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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 10/October/2014 at 18:31
Originally posted by Jayjan Jayjan wrote:

Common sense Big Col,  but its something the Camara (council) seem to lack the knowledge of. Smile   


somehow that's what I thought people would say!

We live in hope


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 11/October/2014 at 09:33
I heard yesterday that the Camara is going to try to force the owners of these sites to remedy them. But don't hold your breath, big business is more powerful than a local council.


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Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 11/October/2014 at 10:53
Back in 2011 when we stayed in a villa above this Crowne Plaza site the window and door openings on the Rua do Cerro Grande, just up from the Arte Bar, were sealed.

They aren't sealed on Google Streetview (which is 2009) and that suggested to me that at least part of the site was mothballed with a view to revisiting it in better times.

Of course they may not be sealed now.........


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 12/December/2014 at 14:09
There's something going on at Farm Village, down by the marina. An extra crane has appeared but I cannot quite see from there what they are doing.




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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 17/December/2014 at 10:51
I've been able to get a closer look at Farm Village. There are a couple of blokes working on the roof of the right hand block. The tall black crane has gone. There is some landscaping work under way on the inside.

Perhaps one day someone will actually be selling these apartments?


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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 29/January/2015 at 14:38
Some more going up perhaps? This is the site next to the ill-fated Crowne Plaza and directly in front of the Arte Bar. Persons were busy yesterday clearing the site and picking up masses of metal and other dumped stuff. This site has been derelict a long time and was occupied by some kind of motor repair business.






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Posted By: Stevie
Date Posted: 29/January/2015 at 17:40
Well it was a bit of an eyesore, has the whole site from Cemetery down to Baleeira Sol apartments been cleared?


Posted By: LIBBY
Date Posted: 29/January/2015 at 19:39
Those townhouses / apartments in the photos would have been so lovely had they been finished.  I always thought that they were in one of the best positions in town.  It will be interesting to see what will appear in this new site and will it ever be finished?

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Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 30/January/2015 at 10:51
"Well it was a bit of an eyesore, has the whole site from Cemetery down to Baleeira Sol apartments been cleared?"

They hadn't started demolishing the old buildings when I walked past. I plan to have a wander down there over the weekend on my way to an alehouse, so see if I can get any more information,


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Posted By: Jock
Date Posted: 30/January/2015 at 19:52
Does this indicate some sort of recovery?

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Posted By: Algarveaddick
Date Posted: 30/January/2015 at 20:48
Things were a bit better last year, but I am still inclined to think it's the usual blind optimism, or some kind of tax loss scam...


Posted By: Big Col
Date Posted: 30/January/2015 at 21:26
Originally posted by Jock Jock wrote:

Does this indicate some sort of recovery?

Not if he's going to another alehouse


Posted By: Stevie
Date Posted: 30/January/2015 at 21:55
Originally posted by Big Col Big Col wrote:

Originally posted by Jock Jock wrote:

Does this indicate some sort of recovery?

Not if he's going to another alehouse
 Hug
Might be the end of the Arte Bar seaview, not bothered though as I never use the place, too touristy, even though it is only 200M from my place 


Posted By: cubsur
Date Posted: 31/January/2015 at 11:30
I had a chance to walk by yesterday evening. Site well and truly cleared except for the old building. A concrete block has been placed across the top end of the ramp to stop people using it as a car park.

There is no indication at all as to what is going to be built there.




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