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Andrew
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Posted: 12/November/2011 at 18:04 |
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Thanking you, I'll go see, it was either that or X Factor! Lol!
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Posted: 12/November/2011 at 18:22 |
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Just had a read, what a laugh, but sadly after that, X Factor starts to have some appeal!
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Posted: 12/November/2011 at 20:24 |
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Don't swear Andrew. carvoeiro.com better than that stuff on TV!!
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Posted: 15/February/2012 at 13:08 |
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Iceland is closed!! According to a local report there was an inspection yesterday by authorities and they have had to close because of labeling/translation issues. Hope it re-opens again soon. Such a shame that authorities seem to want to close down businesses rather than encourage them!
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Posted: 15/February/2012 at 13:40 |
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No surprise there, they do their best to close down any foreign business that does well. I am not sure how legal under European law the Portuguese language thing is. Hopefully the organisation behind Iceland are big enough to fight them all the way. If not, they will just re-label and re-open as others have done, the tax lost will probably outstrip the fine anyway.
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Posted: 15/February/2012 at 16:16 |
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Update from a friend who works there, they will re-open in three days.
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Posted: 15/February/2012 at 16:18 |
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Do you reckon the magazines and greeting cards will have to be translated......!!
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Posted: 15/February/2012 at 18:20 |
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How long has Iceland been open??? and the authorities have JUST decided the labelling is
not within the law.
Like the comment about the birthday cards and magazines Pete.... Lol
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Posted: 18/February/2012 at 13:29 |
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Paddy and Murphy doing a crossword,"I'm stuck on 2 down Murphy: flightless bird from Iceland(6,7) ..Murphy replies "ya thick twat that's easy...frozen chicken!!
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Posted: 18/February/2012 at 18:10 |
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Open again today.
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Posted: 21/February/2012 at 09:35 |
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So apparently, two blokes in suits turned up at Iceland and ask ( in English ) one of the assistants to see the manager, the English assistant tells them she will fetch the manager, but warns them he does not speak Portuguese. The younger of the two starts to say " that is okay we speak English", when the older one interrupts and starts telling the younger guy, in Portuguese, that they will not speak English to him, only Portuguese. The younger bloke argues, but the other bloke won't have it. The assistant, who they assumed would not understand, speaks perfect Portugese and understood every word.
Later one of the managers pointed out to the suits that not only were Iceland busy labelling up as much as they could, but they actually didn't need to do it at all as under EU law, if 70% of a shops customers are not nationals, there is no need to relabel - hence things like Polish shops, or Chinese supermarkets in Britain not having to worry about it - to be told that Portugal has decided to ignore that rule.... On being told that they had to shut the doors and put up a sign, the manager put something like "Closed temporarily due to re-labelling issues" on the door. To be told he was not allowed to put that, he had to put "Closed due to unforeseen circumstances". So they even think they can tell you what you can and can't put in the window of your business now! The spirit of Salazar lives on.... |
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Posted: 21/February/2012 at 10:29 |
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That EU law is an absolute minefield. The gist is that all pre-packed
food products have "to be labelled in a language that is easily
understood" and that this is '"generally assumed to be the official
language(s) of the country concerned". Plenty of room for interpretation
there.
( I wonder what happens in Switzerland. It's not part of the EU so any law or judgement doesn't apply, but has four official languages.) So far as I can tell it goes back to 1993 when a Dutch company wanted to sell goods in the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium without re-labelling. They were told they could not, as French is also an official language in Belgium and that under Belgian law therefore everything has to be bi-lingual. This despite the fact that the Dutch speakers can't or won't speak French and vice-versa. They went to court and lost. (Pedantic mode: There is also a tiny German-speaking area in the east of Belgium where, as I recall from a visit long ago, German is rarely seen on public notices etc but is spoken. Certain historical legacy there. There is one bit of Deutschland that is entirely surrounded by Belgium because of an old railway line.) There was a case in the UK many moons ago when the Benjy's chain of sandwich bars were selling cans of Coca Cola they had sourced from Greece and were therefore labelled only in Greek. Westminster Council successfully prosecuted them. I shall henceforward make it my business to examine all the Spanish produced goods in the various supermarkets to ensure that they also have Portuguese words on the label. Another example of double standards - the UK goes out of its way to produce all sorts of official paperwork in whatever languages are thought necessary for those who do not speak English. And I don't mean in Welsh or Gaelic. Here in Portugal, also in France and doubtless elsewhere, this simply does not happen. You at least learn to read the language or you struggle.
Now given that we know that 10% of the population of the Algarve is Briitish and quite probably another 5% English speaking, perhaps there
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Posted: 21/February/2012 at 10:58 |
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'I shall henceforward make it my business to examine all the Spanish
produced goods in the various supermarkets to ensure that they also have
Portuguese words on the label.'
Many excellent points Tom, especially that one. |
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Posted: 21/February/2012 at 11:55 |
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In fairness, I was told that Portuguese owned Apolonia also had to de the same thing as Iceland, but then again they cannot claim the 70% British customer base that Iceland can.
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Posted: 23/February/2012 at 14:47 |
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Of course the problem with labels is where to put them on smaller items. Just got a couple of sausage rolls from there, and the heating instructions are totally obscured by the labelling now.
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